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#2311 Kyros731

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:39 PM

As I said i'm not looking for high graphic qualitiy. I'm more than willing to play on low settings. Thanks for the input. I do have a friend who'se agreed to let me test with his account once I buy the laptop. For the one you suggested.. I'll consider it, but its a bit more than I'm willing to spend. That being said, it's not just too much more and it wouldn't be that much of a hassle to make up the extra money.

Edited by Kyros731, 25 January 2014 - 07:40 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:50 PM

One thing I forgot to point out is that, that laptop you linked has 2 strikes against it.

1. The HD4000 graphics. The Intel graphics should be able to handle GW2 on low-mid settings, especially at 1366x768, but you may experience some stuttering and/or lag when a lot of spell effects happen at once.

2. The i3-3120m CPU. A dual-core mobile CPU is apt to choke quite badly during CPU intensive areas like L.A., events, and especially, WvW.

If you're not in a hurry, there should be some AMD A8-7600 based laptops on the market soon. I suspect that the CPU portion of that APU would only be about as good as the i3-3120, but the graphics portion is miles ahead.

http://www.tomshardw...averi,3725.html

Edited by Quaker, 25 January 2014 - 10:54 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:30 AM

For reference, I have an older Trinity based A6 APU that when overclocked with Kstat10 can handle GW2 ~40-45 FPS @ 1366 x 768 with a mix of low to medium settings.  It bombs badly in big events of course, but the newer APU generations are quite a bit better in the CPU portion.  They're worth a look at least.

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 01:39 AM

was planning on buiilding a cpu, any comments for this build. and any suggestions for the cooler. thanks

cpu i5 4670k
gpu gtx 750 ti
mobo gryphon z87
ram 8gb
power 600w
on corsair 350d

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:32 PM

Change the CPU to a newer i5-4690K (it should be about the same price). For a cooler, a basic CM Hyper 212+ will get you all the overclock a Haswell can handle.
For best performance with the Haswell CPU you'll want a Z97 based motherboard, not a Z87

Edited by Quaker, 26 August 2014 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 04:16 PM

I'd recommend a Core i5-4690K as well as the aforementioned Z97 motherboard. Its just a minor refresh, but these are the newer versions of the same products and should be available for approximately the same amount of money as an i5-4670K and equivalent Z87 board.

In particular, the -4690K is widely reported to stay about 10°C cooler at a given clock speed versus the -4670K due to improvements made to the chip's thermal interface. You won't likely get a better overclock out of it, though.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:11 PM

View PostQuaker, on 26 August 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

Change the CPU to a newer i5-4690K (it should be about the same price). For a cooler, a basic CM Hyper 212+ will get you all the overclock a Haswell can handle.
For best performance with the Haswell CPU you'll want a Z97 based motherboard, not a Z87

View Posttypographie, on 26 August 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

I'd recommend a Core i5-4690K as well as the aforementioned Z97 motherboard. Its just a minor refresh, but these are the newer versions of the same products and should be available for approximately the same amount of money as an i5-4670K and equivalent Z87 board.

In particular, the -4690K is widely reported to stay about 10°C cooler at a given clock speed versus the -4670K due to improvements made to the chip's thermal interface. You won't likely get a better overclock out of it, though.

thanks for the feedback, i posted the same quest in pcpartpicker and someone suggested a Pentium g3258 for cpu and a r9 280x would that be good as well?

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:57 PM

View Postanudaw, on 27 August 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

thanks for the feedback, i posted the same quest in pcpartpicker and someone suggested a Pentium g3258 for cpu and a r9 280x would that be good as well?

The Pentium G3258 is a very impressive processor for its $75 price because you can overclock it quite heavily, and pushed to its limits it can match or beat Core i3's worth a lot more money. For a low-end rig, or one where you intend to upgrade to another LGA-1150 processor later (like Broadwell), its a great choice. But to squeeze that much out of it you'll definitely need to be comfortable with extensive overclocking, and even then, it still won't be as fast as a Core i5 at default settings.

Additionally, GW2 in particular desperately needs a fast quad-core processor, so if you have the money to go with a Core i5 I wholeheartedly say its worth it.

The R9 280X is probably the best current price/performance deal on a video card for 1080p gaming right now, in that its the cheapest way to be sure you'll get max or near max detail at 1080p and 60 FPS in the vast majority of titles. Its a lot more expensive than the GTX 750 Ti you had picked out before, so it would be best to nail down your needs first: namely, what do you expect for resolution and framerates, and in what games?

Edited by typographie, 27 August 2014 - 06:07 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:01 PM

View Postanudaw, on 27 August 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

thanks for the feedback, i posted the same quest in pcpartpicker and someone suggested a Pentium g3258 for cpu and a r9 280x would that be good as well?
Like Typo, I wouldn't suggest you get a G3258 unless budget is a real concern. However, if you don't plan to overclock, you could replace the i5-4690 with any less expensive Haswell i5, such as the i5-4460, to save a bit of money but get nearly the same performance. Or you could use the money saved on the CPU to get a better GPU such as a GTX-760 or R9 270X.
Overall, an i5-4460 with an R9 270X would perform better than the 4690 and GTX-750 Ti.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:53 PM

Guys i need ur help i think im getting a good deal for 170$ im getting a new:

asrock h81m-vg4
core i5 4430 3.0

i got the mouse keyboard monitor case and a 60GB SSD, the display would be 1280x800, so the other parts would be:

GTX 760 2GB this one http://www.amazon.co...eywords=gtx 760

8GB DDR3 1600 RAM this one http://www.amazon.co...-1&keywords=ram

the power supply i dont have any idea of which one i need(maybe a 500W one would make the trick?) and since i cant OC i dont know if im gonna need something to keep the GPU cool :) ty for any advice u give me i know there r better processors out there that u can OC but i would need a expensier mother board and processor :P

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Posted Yesterday, 04:41 PM

View Postnamasher, on 19 September 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Guys i need ur help i think im getting a good deal for 170$ im getting a new:

asrock h81m-vg4
core i5 4430 3.0

i got the mouse keyboard monitor case and a 60GB SSD, the display would be 1280x800, so the other parts would be:

GTX 760 2GB this one http://www.amazon.co...eywords=gtx 760

8GB DDR3 1600 RAM this one http://www.amazon.co...-1&keywords=ram

the power supply i dont have any idea of which one i need(maybe a 500W one would make the trick?) and since i cant OC i dont know if im gonna need something to keep the GPU cool :) ty for any advice u give me i know there r better processors out there that u can OC but i would need a expensier mother board and processor :P

That looks like a pretty decent system to me. No need to be ashamed of the i5-4430, its going to perform just as well as any Haswell-based Core i5 without overclocking… that is, very well.

You almost never need to worry about aftermarket GPU coolers, because the video card partners (EVGA, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc.) put their own excellent third-party air coolers on most of their products. Very few aftermarket coolers actually exist for purchase, and most of them are liquid cooling blocks. I wouldn't worry too much about overclocking the GTX 760; while you could likely squeeze some more power out of it, its already kinda overkill for 1280x800.

Edited by typographie, Yesterday, 04:41 PM.


#2322 namasher

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Posted Yesterday, 05:16 PM

thank you for ur reply typographie i feel more safe now with that CPU :) and ok no liquid cooling then :P maybe later im gonna grab a better display to take more advantage of the GPU

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Posted Today, 02:51 AM

View Postnamasher, on 19 September 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

thank you for ur reply typographie i feel more safe now with that CPU :) and ok no liquid cooling then :P maybe later im gonna grab a better display to take more advantage of the GPU

I don't think the GTX 760 is a bad idea even if it currently a bit overkill, as it will make a monitor upgrade a lot easier. And the $180-250 bracket is kind of a sweet spot, cheaper cards often sacrifice too much for the money they save you.

If you have the option and haven't purchased yet, I'd actually recommend going with a Radeon R9 280 or 285 unless you're really married to PhysX or something. Performance is consistently better for around the same price, sometimes cheaper.

Edited by typographie, Today, 03:00 AM.


#2324 namasher

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Posted Today, 04:05 AM

great advice in that GPU im gonna look some benchmarks and reviews, thank god i didnt bought it without checking that one :P




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