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#1 Lallo

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

I was pretty hyped when the game was released and got some friends to join me as well.
However, they powerleveled to 80, got bored after 1-2 weeks since there was "nothing to do" and left the game.

I continued for a week or 2 and left on lv 35 since I had no irl friend to play with... I also didn't really understand the PvE "instance" content since they don't have a holy trinity... all the time I tried a dungeon we just wiped... Just felt like everyone was mashing dmg and trying to roll away from attacks and no tactics except that...

Anyway... I've seen that they've made a few updates since release and right now I'm looking for a casual mmo to play for the fun.

What is the state of the game now? Is it worth getting back in to?

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:28 AM

PvE combat is still about damage and dodge.
The game also barely has any new content, so your friends that quit because "they had nothing to do", most likely won't find anything here worth coming back for.

The good part though, is that GW2 recently saw the addition of the Megaserver feature and that fills up the world nicely: PvE folks aren't separated by servers any more and that means that even without friends playing by your side, you won't be playing alone. That might make the game worth checking out again.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:00 PM

View PostLallo, on 25 April 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

What is the state of the game now? Is it worth getting back in to?

It's in the exact same state it was a year ago. Only now we have a Wardrobe and a highly overrated WvW map. It is not worth it.

And most important, no Super Adventure Box this year.

#4 raspberry jam

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:14 PM

View PostLallo, on 25 April 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

right now I'm looking for a casual mmo to play for the fun.

What is the state of the game now? Is it worth getting back in to?
Maybe. The complaints you had, "nothing to do", not understanding instances, and PvE just being about damage and dodging... Well, there is still nothing to do except for when there is a living story release, there is still no holy trinity (though people keep trying to set up role based teams), and PvE is still about spamming damage while dodging to stay alive.

But it's still casual and I guess that it could be played for fun. So it's up to you.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

View PostDesild, on 25 April 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:

And most important, no Super Adventure Box this year.

this is a truly good reason to come back.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

There have been plenty of changes. Crafting professions have changed (you can go up to 500 now on six of them), traits have changed, every profession has a new healing skill, Kessex Hills & Lions Arch has changed substantially, WvW has had changes, SPvP has had changes. I've played GW2 since BETA & I find the dungeons to be a little less difficult. Trying to understand the part each profession has to put into a group may be confusing if you're used to the Trinity, but don't let that discourage you. New World Bosses are out, newer dungeon that wasn't from release is Fractals of the Mist & new track system on PvP Arenas (if you're interested in that). Now Armor & Weapons are account bound & even Dyes.

GW2 does have things for you to do. Some find it boring other enjoy it. It all depends on what you consider to be fun & if your friend stopped playing, try joining a Guild that like doing activities. Also new to GW2 is the Mega Sever which you will find all maps populated. Also if you press H & go to the tab of Achievements, there you have a list of things you may achieve. Like your "to do list", including dailies & monthlies with a reward system. Doing these achievements, you now can earn a new currency called Laurels that can be spent to acquire high end rings, necklaces and earrings.


Many were used to power level their way to max & just quit, missing out some things GW2 has to offer:

Dungeons
Jumping Puzzles
WvW / PvP
Dynamic Events
World Map Completion
Monthly / Daily
World Bosses
Getting Legendary or Ascended
& More...

I can recommend making an ALT & try not to rush to hit max. Also new to the Game is the Trait System, which you can change it at anytime (when not in combat). So if you're doing roaming PvE, you can have it set up a certain build & if going to a dungeon, you can quickly mix it up to suit the dungeon.

Edited by Honey, 25 April 2014 - 01:39 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM

Its really what you make it.  The big thing here is finding a good guild and sticking with it, but if you're more the solo adventure type person, then yeah, its doable, but boring.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:19 PM

It's more fun with friends or a really good guild where you get together on a regular basis and actually talk to one another. Unfortunately, those guilds are pretty rare (and yes, I know someone is going to come along and reply to this, saying they've had absolutely no issue. I'm just saying what I've personally experienced).

In regards to content - no, there is absolutely no new content unless you're into the living world updates which have only really destroyed Lion's Arch as a permanent change. Hopefully they'll be adding new content soon, but I've been gone for over 6 months now and I haven't heard a peep.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 05:48 PM

View PostHoney, on 25 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

some things GW2 has to offer:

Jumping Puzzles
Hahahah I still don't know why people like these instead of just playing Portal :D

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 25 April 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Hahahah I still don't know why people like these instead of just playing Portal :D

3D platforming without an analog stick is suffering. Mario 64 will forever spoil me in this regard.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 06:49 PM

This is a hard question.

You already paid for the game, so the only thing costing you now is time.

If you have the time, and no other game to play (my situation) it is "worth it".

However, I would personally not give Anet another dime until they fix the trait system, and make armors you buy from the store free to change on your wardrobe.

But that's just me.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 07:30 PM

nothing new content  wise. May be it's not bad to log in to see the new features but nothing worth playing for a long time. At least i ll wait until they release something new and bigger then mining pick and new rushed armor set in the gem store.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 10:27 PM

View PostLallo, on 25 April 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

I was pretty hyped when the game was released and got some friends to join me as well.
However, they powerleveled to 80, got bored after 1-2 weeks since there was "nothing to do" and left the game.

I continued for a week or 2 and left on lv 35 since I had no irl friend to play with... I also didn't really understand the PvE "instance" content since they don't have a holy trinity... all the time I tried a dungeon we just wiped... Just felt like everyone was mashing dmg and trying to roll away from attacks and no tactics except that...

Anyway... I've seen that they've made a few updates since release and right now I'm looking for a casual mmo to play for the fun.

What is the state of the game now? Is it worth getting back in to?
Can't find a more casual MMORPG than this. I would even say that this game punishes you for not being casual.

Go for it, I say. This is a solid game.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 10:57 PM

View PostBryant Again, on 25 April 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

3D platforming without an analog stick is suffering. Mario 64 will forever spoil me in this regard.
Your mouse is an analog device. ^_^

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 11:01 PM

View Postlalangamena, on 25 April 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

this is a truly good reason to come back.

I think you're on to something...

#16 Lallo

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 06:35 AM

Ok last night I actually found some irl friends that have been playing for some months.

I started the game again and joined them in a fractal.

Sadly, the game is not for me... and for some reason it's sad because I really like the effort they've put into some parts of the game, but they just did wrong choices in other parts which makes it unplayable :(

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 06:57 AM

you sound like a WoW player , i mean the bad WoW players that ignore everything that's different from WoW. There is much to do at lvl 35.  Even at lvl 80. But if you coudn't even level a single char to lvl 80, the game is not for you. No need to come back, find another game

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 07:05 AM

View Postkonsta_hoptrop, on 26 April 2014 - 06:57 AM, said:

you sound like a WoW player , i mean the bad WoW players that ignore everything that's different from WoW. There is much to do at lvl 35.  Even at lvl 80. But if you coudn't even level a single char to lvl 80, the game is not for you. No need to come back, find another game

Mildly amused.  He only said the game wasn't for him.  And then you called him a bad WoW player.  Perhaps you should solicit some deeper impressions before rushing to judge.  Near as I can tell, he just doesn't like the game.  For whatever reason.  Seems valid. A lot of people who never played WoW (GW1 players) don't like GW2.
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#19 Lallo

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 11:12 AM

View Postkonsta_hoptrop, on 26 April 2014 - 06:57 AM, said:

you sound like a WoW player , i mean the bad WoW players that ignore everything that's different from WoW. There is much to do at lvl 35.  Even at lvl 80. But if you coudn't even level a single char to lvl 80, the game is not for you. No need to come back, find another game

I played wow many years ago and I'm aware of that no mmo will ever feel the same. It was just the right moment for such kind of game and there was a lot of factors that made the game what it was, it didn't even have to be about the actual game, more the community and so on...

Anyway I like a lot of things with GW2. The world looks really nice and there are many GREAT features that could have make it a top game but sadly they've missed out on other key features which doesn't work FOR ME.

For example last night when we played... I know I haven't been playing for some time, but the dungeons (fractals) are really messy.

It's hard to see whats happening between all the mobs and spell effects. Since there is no trinity, no one in the group had any roles at any time and and I asked my friends if they can see whats happening on the screen or what the tactic is.

"Just spam all your attacks, we can't see shit either".

Maybe its different and some people like it, I dont.

But I understand that gw2 is different. But different doesnt have to be better.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 12:16 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 25 April 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Hahahah I still don't know why people like these instead of just playing Portal :D

The multiplayer aspect. + some JP's, and hidden places actually require some thinking contrary to portal.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

View PostGilles VI, on 26 April 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

The multiplayer aspect. + some JP's, and hidden places actually require some thinking contrary to portal.


Not so sure man: I always have the feeling that GW2's jumping puzzles are done so that you fail because the screen is too dark, or the camera gets in the way or ... whereas with Portal I fail the puzzles because I can't figure out exactly what to do. In Portal you fail because you are stupid, whereas in GW2, you fail because the game treats you like you are stupid.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 01:23 PM

View PostLallo, on 26 April 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Sadly, the game is not for me... and for some reason it's sad because I really like the effort they've put into some parts of the game, but they just did wrong choices in other parts which makes it unplayable :(

You have made a wise decision. Sometimes, all it takes is an unbiased perspective to fully realise the scope of this game.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

View PostDesild, on 26 April 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

You have made a wise decision. Sometimes, all it takes is an unbiased perspective to fully realise the scope of this game.

I realise there is alot that GW2 does wrong (cough living story cough) but you should just try some of the other mmo's out there, after 30mins you'll be surprised by the things you take for granted in GW2. (just look at eso)

View PostBaron von Scrufflebutt, on 26 April 2014 - 01:12 PM, said:

Not so sure man: I always have the feeling that GW2's jumping puzzles are done so that you fail because the screen is too dark, or the camera gets in the way or ... whereas with Portal I fail the puzzles because I can't figure out exactly what to do. In Portal you fail because you are stupid, whereas in GW2, you fail because the game treats you like you are stupid.

Yea I agree the camera is quite annoying for big races (hell even on my human characters...) but I found portal to be seriously over-hyped, it was a very enjoyable game yes, but as hard or mind-blowing as some people let you think, not really.
In most puzzles you just need to find the way up, and in the 2 games together there were only a handfull of parts that took me longer than 10sec to figure out.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 07:32 PM

View PostGilles VI, on 26 April 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

I realise there is alot that GW2 does wrong (cough living story cough) but you should just try some of the other mmo's out there, after 30mins you'll be surprised by the things you take for granted in GW2. (just look at eso)
So you mean that if other children eat their own snot you should do that too?

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 08:00 PM

View PostLallo, on 26 April 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Sadly, the game is not for me...

It looks like we're all done here then.

Lallo, if you feel you need more input for your decision, feel free to let me know and we can get this started back up again. There's also the Question and Answer forum as well.

Thanks!

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