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#1 Stouts

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:25 PM

Is there any news about what is coming next for GW2 content?  What should we be expecting for the month of May?

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:39 PM

Nothing apparently until June, according to people here.

I have heard nothing official.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:44 PM

I think they're too busy with the China launch.

I'm hoping they'll add something soon... like a major content patch. But I'm not holding my breath.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:50 PM

I remember reading Anet was considering more stealth added content.

So it's possible we log in one day, and there is something new in a zone...


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

If there's nothing new due to the China launch, they could always turn on one of their placeholder holidays like SAB or Dragonbash for a week.

Of course, Dragonbash would require restoring LA first.  "Look!  It's been rebuilt.  Let's burn some effigies as a sign of our resilience.  This time we can have some pointy-haired Sylvari pinatas as well!"

Or maybe not.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:04 PM

View PostMordakai, on 02 May 2014 - 07:50 PM, said:

I remember reading Anet was considering more stealth added content.

So are classes going to be able to get more stealth skills or are you talking about "sneaky updates"? :P

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:03 PM

The launch in China is their current priority.  It is expected that mentions of updates are coming near the end of May, with actual new content (Living Story or replacement of it), coming early June.
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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:05 PM

Considering the silence, a June update for the next update doesn't surprise me.  Thanks for the responses!

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:06 AM

i know the China launch is going on right now but they can slip things in for the may update. I would think it would be small quality of life changes but i can be wrong. There are still small things that can be fixed in the game. Most of this is my opinion, tho.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:02 AM

W/e, just fix the jungle worm feedback glitch and I'll be fine.

And maybe end this whatever-style wvw tournament early. A month straight of the same matchups is wearisome, and still another month to go? Really?

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 11:44 AM

wait until after china.

So for the next 5-6 months while they get everything ready and roll out over there you sit on your hands.

The only company I have ever seen that stops one thing to do another. who cares about all those playing now and who have been loyal - china.

The other thing I heard was that the reason is that china is the company - that is - they failed hard in the EU and NA so they cant make any mistakes with China or they company may be lost. That was on forums by their fan bois . (vol and krall)

Edited by nerfandderf, 05 May 2014 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:26 PM

While I am certainly not the GW2 fan I was 2 years ago, I would like to see some proof they "failed" in the west.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:43 PM

They failed expectations, but they haven't failed the game yet I suppose.  I still log in to relax after a long day.

Playing GW2 is like a little mini-vacation after dinner.  You don't have to think or exert yourself, just sit back and enjoy the beautiful scenery.

And socialize.

It's a little like what high school would be like if it was all done in cosplay.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:31 PM

Combination of megaserver and China release put a hold on any major updates. You don't want to roll out new content after changing the map assignment system until you get it reasonably ironed out. China release likely has less to do with it than getting ahead on the next season of the LS and letting the megaserver system have some time to normalize. Depends on if they are planning on starting the season with a big bang event or a series of sneaky changes to maps really.

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It's a little like what high school would be like if it was all done in cosplay.

That... is the most amazing visual ever.

Little Mabel won't be able to be here it's our worst fear. She's busy working on her garden that she's growing up in space.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:43 PM

View Postnerfandderf, on 05 May 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

wait until after china.

So for the next 5-6 months while they get everything ready and roll out over there you sit on your hands.

The only company I have ever seen that stops one thing to do another. who cares about all those playing now and who have been loyal - china.

The other thing I heard was that the reason is that china is the company - that is - they failed hard in the EU and NA so they cant make any mistakes with China or they company may be lost. That was on forums by their fan bois . (vol and krall)
they deffinetly didn't failed in EU and NA. 3,5 mil copies sold for 1 year isnt fail. NA servers are full all the time. So you heard wrong troll boy :)
But ye that gap between the end of first Living story and now is kinda annoying. The game desperate need content

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 01:46 PM

View Postnerfandderf, on 05 May 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

So for the next 5-6 months while they get everything ready and roll out over there you sit on your hands.

More like 4 weeks, at most.  After localization and certain graphical edits, Arenanet's work is done, and the rest must be done by KingKong, or KhonZhong, or ZhongKong, or whatever it's called.
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

View Postdavadude, on 06 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

...and the rest must be done by KingKong, or KhonZhong, or ZhongKong, or whatever it's called.

Sum Ting Wong? "just kidding"

I expect them to really take a hard look at WvW. IMHO, this timezone coverage based PPT borefest is really stupid. They need to slice and dice it for more action and instant gratification. Maybe that's what is next for GW2.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:51 PM

What is this all this China fuss about? You can't tell anyone that this release takes up the whole working time of 300 anet staff members while they are having a chinese publisher that handles translocation, advertisement, publishing etc. This would be ridiculous, even for anet's current standards.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:09 AM

View PostMiragee, on 06 May 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

What is this all this China fuss about? You can't tell anyone that this release takes up the whole working time of 300 anet staff members while they are having a chinese publisher that handles translocation, advertisement, publishing etc. This would be ridiculous, even for anet's current standards.

Then why the silence from anet?

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:34 AM

All of that feature patch, polishing stuff for new users etc. was timed just before China release. So that likely took their previous focus. They could well be back to working on content now but that takes at least a month or two to get done.

Edit: two other points

1) China doesn't release until the 15th, and the LS stuff is going to be synchronized. So they probably want to leave the customary month for people to get to 80 before treating them to new content.

2) Wildstar releases on June 3rd. Not surprised if NCSoft wants them to leave some space for launch. Let people spend $60+ then decide later which MMO they prefer.

Edited by FoxBat, 07 May 2014 - 02:22 AM.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:21 AM

View PostMordakai, on 07 May 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

Then why the silence from anet?
It's simple really and this post explains why they're silent:

View PostKonzacelt, on 05 May 2014 - 02:43 PM, said:

They failed expectations,

They failed exaggerated expectations by people who can't be realistic about anything. I've been a gamer for a quarter century and they met every single one of my realistic expectations grounded in experience with other games.

By not releasing anything there's no stupid hype by people who know nothing about games and development.

Some people deconstruct every single word of every single blog post, go to the logical extreme and posit that as the expectation. No wonder these people are let down. With no info released when the content is still in beta, these internet heroes can't hurt the game.

I expect something huge to drop. When? When it's ready.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:02 AM

View PostMordakai, on 07 May 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

Then why the silence from anet?

Because they said there would be a break. They never said how long it would last. They just shipped out the feature patch so if they would proceed with the LS right now, there wouldn't be a break from their updates at all. They are probably working on a smooth launch for the next Living Story Season.

View Postharniq, on 07 May 2014 - 06:21 AM, said:

It's simple really and this post explains why they're silent:


They failed exaggerated expectations by people who can't be realistic about anything. I've been a gamer for a quarter century and they met every single one of my realistic expectations grounded in experience with other games.

By not releasing anything there's no stupid hype by people who know nothing about games and development.

Some people deconstruct every single word of every single blog post, go to the logical extreme and posit that as the expectation. No wonder these people are let down. With no info released when the content is still in beta, these internet heroes can't hurt the game.

I expect something huge to drop. When? When it's ready.

So much self-entitlement.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 11:01 AM

View Postharniq, on 07 May 2014 - 06:21 AM, said:

It's simple really and this post explains why they're silent:


They failed exaggerated expectations by people who can't be realistic about anything. I've been a gamer for a quarter century and they met every single one of my realistic expectations grounded in experience with other games.

By not releasing anything there's no stupid hype by people who know nothing about games and development.

Some people deconstruct every single word of every single blog post, go to the logical extreme and posit that as the expectation. No wonder these people are let down. With no info released when the content is still in beta, these internet heroes can't hurt the game.

I expect something huge to drop. When? When it's ready.

No, they failed expectations.  Period.  I'm not talking about taking what they say verbatim.  To paraphrase all the pre-launch marketing rhetoric, they said they were going to make a game that was a legitimate heir to GW1.  Whether you want to talk about combat mechanics, customization, difficulty, theme, style, lore, whatever...they failed that.

GW2 is its own game, and good is some areas, but it's certainly not in the same vein as its predecessor.

Edited by Konzacelt, 07 May 2014 - 11:02 AM.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 11:26 AM

View PostKonzacelt, on 07 May 2014 - 11:01 AM, said:

No, they failed expectations.  Period.  
Disagree. They failed YOUR expectations. Compared to other companies, Arena.net actually came through on a great deal of promises. Overall, the game is a blast and mostly as promised.
The statement "fail" implies a false dichotomy. Arena.net met expectations to a great degree. Not 100%, not 0%. I read from your statement that they failed 100% and that's just nonsense.

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I'm not talking about taking what they say verbatim.  To paraphrase all the pre-launch marketing rhetoric, they said they were going to make a game that was a legitimate heir to GW1.  Whether you want to talk about combat mechanics, customization, difficulty, theme, style, lore, whatever...they failed that.
It's exactly what you'd expect from making an MMO out of the diablo-style game GW1 was.
To me it has always been clear that GW2 would be a distinct game and not merely GW1 with an open world.

Could things have been better, of course, I grant you that without hesitation. Did Arena.net fail on all your counts, not at all. They succeeded but not to the degree you expected.

View PostMiragee, on 07 May 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

So much self-entitlement.
Can't help it.

To aggrandize it. The company I work for released the successor to it's big software package around the time GW2 released. We face the exact same entitlement from customers which A.net gets on the forums. Software development is often glacial in pace. I can't help that, it's a fact of life. Often, loved features are removed or changed. Again, that's because we try to head into the new century with our software.

I don't think I'm entitled. I know exactly what a.net devs feel like when they read the forums because I face the same flak from customers. That flak is entirely legitimate, I won't talk it down. People want stuff, they expect stuff. Often it takes time to deliver and often it's not 100% what you wanted.

Luckily, my customers are usually engineers or Ph.D's. I take the time to explain and they understand. Together we can make great things happen regardless of issues with our new software. Forum trolls, entitled gamers and armchair heroes usually won't listen to reason and don't have reasonable expectations.

Disclaimer: I only target the trolls with this post. Please don't take offense unless you're one. Some complaints are legit but so are the excuses. Be reasonable and moderate your expectations.

Edited by harniq, 07 May 2014 - 12:07 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:20 PM

View Postharniq, on 07 May 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

Disagree. They failed YOUR expectations. Compared to other companies, Arena.net actually came through on a great deal of promises. Overall, the game is a blast and mostly as promised.
The statement "fail" implies a false dichotomy. Arena.net met expectations to a great degree. Not 100%, not 0%. I read from your statement that they failed 100% and that's just nonsense.

No, not my expectations, common expectations.  Expectations denote a set of guidelines with which to judge something.  It's irrelevant if the game is a blast, that's not specifically what was promised.

Oh and failing 90% while succeeding on 10% does not mean it didn't fail...that's just plain silly.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

View PostKonzacelt, on 07 May 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

No, not my expectations, common expectations.  Expectations denote a set of guidelines with which to judge something.  It's irrelevant if the game is a blast, that's not specifically what was promised.

Oh and failing 90% while succeeding on 10% does not mean it didn't fail...that's just plain silly.

I'm having some trouble making sense of this thread. The discussing of Arenanet falling short of expectations started as a [silly, unsubstantiated] reason why they're focusing on China this month, but your posts sound like they failed your personal expectations. That does not follow. The former is at least relevant to the discussion, the latter really isn't.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:24 PM

Was a response to someone else's post.  Ironically, I was trying to say that while they failed expectations as pertaining to a GW1 sequel(in most respects), it's still a success in other values like popularity, casual enjoyment, and profit.  Even with the slow and steady bleeding off of players since launch.  How that affects the China release I have no idea.  But as a company and business they haven't failed...albeit in a short-term, trendy kind of way.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:18 PM

I am still trying to find substantiation for this claim Anet said there would be a break.

I don't mind them taking a break, I would rather they take their time.

But silence fuels speculation.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:58 PM

View PostMordakai, on 07 May 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

I am still trying to find substantiation for this claim Anet said there would be a break.

I don't mind them taking a break, I would rather they take their time.

But silence fuels speculation.

Is there anything that doesn't fuel speculation? Besides, who cares in the end? Conspiracy theorists will always see conspiracies even in tea leafs and smoke shapes.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:18 AM

I take it none of you are working on the WvW event.




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