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#1 WunTunPunch

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 08:40 AM

I've been nosing around looking for a way to play GW to get the GW2 achievements for the Hall of Monuments. From what I've read it doesn't look as though it's going to be easy especially since the game is so understandably quiet now.

So far I've found a couple of guides that might help me get started:
http://gw2.unfair.co...l-of-monuments/
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http://www.reddit.co...d_at_beginners/

The reddit post talks about playing a ritualist but also mentions getting specific pets. Am I right in saying that this means I have to get Ranger as a 2ndry?

Other than that, the reddit post looks pretty good but I wanted to know if anyone had any other snippets of information or web sites that have good detail on the most efficient way to play through the campaigns and gain the achievements in GW2

thanks for your time

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 09:38 AM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 20 May 2014 - 08:40 AM, said:

The reddit post talks about playing a ritualist but also mentions getting specific pets. Am I right in saying that this means I have to get Ranger as a 2ndry?
A temp swap to /R, just to charm them for the HoM statues they give.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

Since you say you're going for GW2 achievements, does that mean you intend to go for 50/50?  The guide you linked to is only for 30/50.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

I don't know if I will reach,or have the staying power to go for 50 , so I am going to go for 30 initially

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 02:02 PM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 20 May 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

I don't know if I will reach,or have the staying power to go for 50 , so I am going to go for 30 initially

30/50 is actually very easy compared to 50/50. 50/50 asks for a lot of dedication and money. 30/50 shouldn't be a problem though and I would recommend you to find a nice guild. If you like the guild and the game then continuing for 50/50 is a viable option of course.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 10:40 PM

There are still plenty of people that play GW1. You can go to Kamadan District 1 and find plenty of people recruiting for guilds/selling stuff. It's far from completely dead.

The only part of the Reddit guide I disagree with is beating Factions first. Nightfall should be the first campaign you beat because it gives you Heroes and Heroes will make the rest of the game much more easier.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:02 AM

View PostSave 4 Less, on 21 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

There are still plenty of people that play GW1. You can go to Kamadan District 1 and find plenty of people recruiting for guilds/selling stuff. It's far from completely dead.

The only part of the Reddit guide I disagree with is beating Factions first. Nightfall should be the first campaign you beat because it gives you Heroes and Heroes will make the rest of the game much more easier.

Aw parp! I've started a ritualist in Shing Jea which I think is Factions..... Oh well, he's only level 4, I can start again :)

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:32 AM

View PostSave 4 Less, on 21 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

There are still plenty of people that play GW1. You can go to Kamadan District 1 and find plenty of people recruiting for guilds/selling stuff. It's far from completely dead.

The only part of the Reddit guide I disagree with is beating Factions first. Nightfall should be the first campaign you beat because it gives you Heroes and Heroes will make the rest of the game much more easier.

Sorry, another quick question. Can I still pick up the Black Moa, Black Widow and Imperial Pheonix if I run through Nightfall 1st?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:25 AM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 22 May 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

Aw parp! I've started a ritualist in Shing Jea which I think is Factions..... Oh well, he's only level 4, I can start again :)

Actually, you can start with both the ritualist and assassin in Factions only. These two classes have been introduced with that campaign. Likewise, paragon and dervish are only available in Nightfall.

However, once you are past the starter island, you can travel between the campaigns anytime. No matter in which campaign you created your character, it will be able to finish them in whatever order you choose to. So even with your ritualist you can easily do Nightfall first if you like.

View PostWunTunPunch, on 22 May 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

Sorry, another quick question. Can I still pick up the Black Moa, Black Widow and Imperial Pheonix if I run through Nightfall 1st?

Absolutely. Think of the individual campaign progress as completely separate. What you do in one campaign won't affect the progress of the other.


Regarding guides, check the one on the official wiki as well if you haven't yet. This suggests playing the campaigns where you unlock heroes first - something I completely agree with. Once you have a full selection of heroes available, the content becomes far easier, especially older campaigns such as Factions or Prophecies.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:05 AM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 22 May 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

Aw parp! I've started a ritualist in Shing Jea which I think is Factions..... Oh well, he's only level 4, I can start again :)

I would recommend to keep playing your factions char. The factions tut island is really nice in terms of level progress etc. As soon as you are on the mainland you can run north to Kaineng Center and pick up the quest to ship over to Elona (Nightfall). That way you skip the tedious starter quests in Nightfall (gosh, I don't know what they were thinking) and also bypass all of the arbitrary title grind as foreign chars doesn't require that to progress through the story.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:38 AM

Another alternative is going to EoTN after Shing Jea to pick up Ogden and Vekk as heroes. Walking distance later, Gwen too.

Edited by Karuro, 22 May 2014 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:44 AM

I really love what you are doing here. It would be nice if you kept track and maybe wrote what you think of the game you who got fresh new eyes. Is it still a game for people to enjoy and maybe play?

I myself have played it a few thousand hours and got my 30/50 but I love hearing people wanting to try the game again, and not just from nostalgia like myself.

Please inform us here or on a new post what you think of the game :)

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 01:38 PM

Is it possible to do the game with only the primary quests or are there side quests that I simply shouldn't miss?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 22 May 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

Is it possible to do the game with only the primary quests or are there side quests that I simply shouldn't miss?

Depending on your starting continent there are two side-quests you shouldn't miss. These are called attribute quests and give you 15 extra attribute points each. For Cantha, where you started, the quests are located in Ran Musu Gardens and Seitung Harbor (ring the bell). Otherwise, you can simply only play the main quests and progress just fine. The storyline laid out so that you reach max level way before it ends. All other quests are just optional, might give some nice rewards (some elite quests or skill quests in EotN) or give some interesting backstories if you care for it.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 02:36 PM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 22 May 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

Is it possible to do the game with only the primary quests or are there side quests that I simply shouldn't miss?
Some sidequests in Prophecies give skills as rewards. It'll save you some cash/points.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:59 PM

Quick update

First though, thanks for the guidance.

I've started playing and continued using the ritualist that I had already created. Not far in but what do you expect with all the living world content just now :). I am using http://wiki.guildwar..._primary_quests and took the advice on there of taking all the 2ndry quest lines before making a final decision (which is going to be a ranger). There are 8 of these of which I have 3 left and I am already nearly level 8.

Once I've been working my way through that I am going to follow Karuro's advice and head over to get a couple of heroes. To be honest though, I don't really know what that means but I will soon find out!

Also, I cleared up my inventory of the characters I had sitting in Guild Wars. This seems to have netted me quite a few birthday presents including up to 7 years worth. Should I just open them? Or, are they worth more closed?

Once I get the 2 heroes, can I go back and finish Factions with them and some other help too?

Edited by WunTunPunch, 28 May 2014 - 01:24 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:01 PM

Dunno, how much birthday presents are worth. I always open them and sell the pets because I have a lot of characters and feel like getting middle ground RNG in the long run because of that. But depending on what you have on your Hall of Monuments (nothing?) I would just open them, get the Minis for your HoM and sell the ones you got twice. Might save you some trading/looking for those.

For your last question: Yes, you can of course. That's the point why it was recommended to first get the heroes: Because you can then do the other campaigns with them. ;)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:09 PM

View PostMiragee, on 28 May 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

depending on what you have on your Hall of Monuments (nothing?)

Yes, currently I have 3 points and I think that was just for linking the accounts.

Really enjoying it though. The animations have aged a bit but the game areas still look excellent and the stories etc are fun too. I distinctly remember hating the death penalties and that hasn't changed.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:34 AM

View PostMiragee, on 28 May 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Dunno, how much birthday presents are worth. I always open them and sell the pets because I have a lot of characters and feel like getting middle ground RNG in the long run because of that. But depending on what you have on your Hall of Monuments (nothing?) I would just open them, get the Minis for your HoM and sell the ones you got twice. Might save you some trading/looking for those.

I opened the birthday presents last night and I've now got 21 minis but 2 of them are duplicates. I have 1 gold, 2 purple and the rest are white (not sure what levels of rarity they are).

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 08:20 AM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 29 May 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

I opened the birthday presents last night and I've now got 21 minis but 2 of them are duplicates. I have 1 gold, 2 purple and the rest are white (not sure what levels of rarity they are).

Placing them in the HoM should net you 4 points in total (placing a mini, golden mini, 20 minis; you miss a green one for another point). Rarity is usually white-->purple-->gold-->green. But there are some exceptions with purple/golden minis being extremly rare.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 08:29 AM

View PostMiragee, on 29 May 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

Placing them in the HoM should net you 4 points in total (placing a mini, golden mini, 20 minis; you miss a green one for another point). Rarity is usually white-->purple-->gold-->green. But there are some exceptions with purple/golden minis being extremly rare.

One question that the guide doesn't really answer is how to get to the HoM. Is that something that can be done from anywhere like you can in GW2? Or is it somewhere specific and can I get to it at any level?

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 09:35 AM

View PostWunTunPunch, on 29 May 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

One question that the guide doesn't really answer is how to get to the HoM. Is that something that can be done from anywhere like you can in GW2? Or is it somewhere specific and can I get to it at any level?

It's a place in EotN. It's a small side area in the second outpost, called The Eye of the North, you reach after starting the EotN story line (the story line will automatically guide you to the HoM). You can get to it at any level but if you don't get help/aren't experienced with monster spawns/pathing/builds I would recommend to reach level 20 first because the content there is designed for max level.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

View PostMiragee, on 29 May 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

It's a place in EotN. It's a small side area in the second outpost, called The Eye of the North, you reach after starting the EotN story line (the story line will automatically guide you to the HoM). You can get to it at any level but if you don't get help/aren't experienced with monster spawns/pathing/builds I would recommend to reach level 20 first because the content there is designed for max level.

Thanks again.

So how does this sound?

1. Finish Shing Jea Island and head to main land
2. Head to EoTN and pick up Ogden and Vekk (can I mix heroes and henchmen?)
3. Go back and finish Factions
4. Go and do EoTN

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:09 AM

Sounds solid. I would probably squeeze in the Nightfall Campaign as point three to get a full set of 7 lvl 20 heroes or at least visit Kamadan and do the first quests until you get your first heroes (they should be lvl 15 by the point you get them as foreigner). You can level them along any campaign you wish to continue from there on. For you, that would be your point four, factions. It might be a bid hard at first because your heroes aren't level 20 yet but the content is. However, with decent builds it shouldn't be a problem. You can hit me up ingame if you need advice with builds (just add "Mederi Astrum", switching chars regularly).

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 01:48 PM

Just throwing my 2 cents in since I just recently went through this myself.  First a little back story:

I originally started playing GW1:Prophecies back at release and picked up Factions and Nightfall at their releases as well.  I played through most of Prophecies and beat the main storyline of Factions but barely started Nightfall.  At that point I ended up dropping GW at the time due to gaming ADD and left it dormant for a good 5 years.  I started GW2 at release and have played since but then decided I really wanted to pick up some of the HoM rewards and achievement points so about 3 months ago I purchased EotN and went about trying to fill out the Hall of Monuments in GW1.

Like you, I did a lot of research to try and find the most efficient way to get it done and after about 2 months of playing I stopped with 31/50 HoM points.  I must say that I was surprised at how quickly it went by because I was expecting it to be quite tedious.  It's certainly possible that all the progress I had previously accomplished made it a lot easier so I would suggest if you had a similar situation, take note of the things you have already done or came close to completing and focus on knocking them out first (ie. the main storylines for each campaign, collecting armor sets, etc).  You've already mentioned the birthday minis -- I had the exact same situation where I had tons of birthday gifts and immediately opened them and threw the minis into the HoM (that was a quick 5 HoM points).  

Everyone else has posted great advice so far.  Once you start collecting a full party of heroes, look into getting them the skills they need to create builds that will make your life a lot easier.  For example, the HoM lets you add heroes that have been upgraded.  To do this requires finding certain items and taking them to a NPC to craft the armor.  The easiest way to go about this is to collect all of the EotN heroes and finish the campaign.  Afterwards you can attempt the challenge quest Glint's Challenge which gives a guaranteed 1 upgrade item each time you complete it.  The great thing though, is that with the right combination of heroes and skills you can go in there and AFK farm it until you have each of your EotN heroes upgraded so you can add them to the HoM.  Here is a video of what it is like https://www.youtube....h?v=inqzP0WWslU and the builds I used myself were copied from here http://gwpvx.gameped...Glint's_Heroway.

The PvX wiki is a great resource for finding builds that will assist you in making your way through all the campaigns as efficiently as possible.  They just might require some hunting of skills which isn't too terribly difficult.

Anyway, by the end of my quest to fill out the HoM I ended up finishing each campaign, added all my minis, added all the upgraded heroes from EotN as well as the rare pets, added 8 armor sets, added 11 weapons, and only added 3 titles.  This ended up leaving me with 31/50 which, until I get crazy and feel like grinding for titles, I am totally happy with.  If you'd like to see exactly everything I added go here https://hom.guildwar...n/#page=welcome and type in the name Heimdall Asgard.

Hope this is a little helpful and good luck!

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 01:50 PM

Use http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/ for price check on different items, minis, materials and everything you need of guides and other help.

Edited by King Tomodo, 29 May 2014 - 01:51 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 09:37 PM

Hi....try going here for info on HoM. I used it to help me get to 50/50. http://www.guildwars...-t10454341.html

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:27 AM

Panic attack last night... the wiki for Guild Wars was down!

Anyway, with this mini wiki here I ended up completing Zen Daijun. Unfortunately I didn't get the master award but I will go back and do that.

From there I went to Kaineng docks and ran Mayhem in the Market which I had to be careful with because I was only level 13. That place gets very busy with enemies. From that I went back to the marketplace and walked North to the centre and picked up M.O.X. on the way. Did a tutorial with the asuran image then logged off.

I was going to head over to EoTN but it was late so that's my next target. I'll grab a couple of heroes then go and do Nightfall as per Miragee's suggestion.

Loving the game so far. I have no idea how I got an assassin to 20 because I can't remember doing much of the Shing Jea Island story but I'm well on the way now at level 14 to another character and more of a clue how to play the game with you guys help.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:59 PM

I've been working my way through Nightfall now and enjoying it but I decided last night to go to Eye of the North and I ended up in the HoM. I saw something about handing a tapestry to Gwen but she told me we had more important things to worry about.

How do I get my stuff into the HoM? I've been there but there's no difference on the HoM calculator for my character.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 01:11 PM

Well, you may have noticed that there are 5 monuments inside the HoM, but only 1 (honor) is unlocked by default. To unlock the other 4 (to be able to put/display stuff), you need one tapestry for each. You will get those tapestries while playing through the EotN campaign.

The exact quests are linked on the wiki, but no need to worry about them, you really cannot miss them while playing through the main story.

Lastly, it doesn't really matter in what order you unlock them - you could however start with one where you have stuff ready for display (minis or heroes...).




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