This pretty much sums up why GW2's design feels so grindy, IMO.
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#2198275 Why GW2 Feels so Grindy
Posted
El Duderino
on 04 May 2013 - 03:32 AM
#2123036 GW2 and the Trinity
Posted
ChrisReitz
on 19 December 2012 - 01:48 PM
Die useless thread Die... Trinity=waiting for hours... Trinity is something guild wars 2 was made to show you dont need it you can complain all you want about it... Just blood in water...
#2012628 Social Failure?
Posted
MFGrady
on 12 October 2012 - 04:26 AM
Here's the thing. Grouping in MMOs doesn't promote social interaction.
Tanks tank, healers heal, dps dps. Nothing needs to be said. Nothing is ever said. I think people more so are looking for social dependency, IE "I'm a tank/healer so you better respect and worship me". Since WoTLK the only thing I ever needed to say was "Good run, another?"
There only 2 things that you could talk about in a group
Discussing the current content
Random Banter.
The second is completely independent of the group, let alone the game, so anyone should be able to do it. If you think discussing content = social interaction, you should perhaps get some real friends.
The platform is there for you: the chat box and mail. If you need anymore, you might as well ask the Devs to chat for you.
Tanks tank, healers heal, dps dps. Nothing needs to be said. Nothing is ever said. I think people more so are looking for social dependency, IE "I'm a tank/healer so you better respect and worship me". Since WoTLK the only thing I ever needed to say was "Good run, another?"
There only 2 things that you could talk about in a group
Discussing the current content
Random Banter.
The second is completely independent of the group, let alone the game, so anyone should be able to do it. If you think discussing content = social interaction, you should perhaps get some real friends.
The platform is there for you: the chat box and mail. If you need anymore, you might as well ask the Devs to chat for you.
#1992433 Cutting to the chase.
Posted
Relidar
on 04 October 2012 - 03:39 PM
Having played most of the MMO's that are and was on the market for over 12 years now, I'm starting to get tired of the same cycle. Maybe I'm just getting older and less patient though, who really knows.
Some people will probably tell me to just stop reading forums. And you're right, why even bother with complainers?
So what's my point here?
For once, i would like an MMO to either completely skip phase "One month after release where are my flying mounts and expansions" or at least decrease the overwhelming pile of blockage on our forums that it has become the last few years.
It would be unwise of me to create a thread where i cry about people crying, however.
Let me try to point you in the right direction instead!
Games are games
First of all, you all need to learn that games are made to be enjoyed as a hobby or activity outside of your daily life. (Unless you're a pro gamer)
Not all MMO's will have exactly everything that your previous MMO had. This is truth. You cannot escape this. You cannot force developers to create a game customized for you. You can give constructive feedback on how the game could improve or point out the flaws that you think they need to focus more on.
Appreciate individuality
Games represent the developers vision. There are different MMO's for all kind of play styles on the market. The main issue is that people are focusing to much on "should, could, would" instead of enjoying what already is.
Guild Wars 2 is a PvP game. It does have a lot of PvE content for being a PvP game, but it is still mainly focused on PvP. There are no raids or bosses to repeatedly kill on a daily or weekly basis.
Now i agree with some of you, (t/s)PvP and WvW has a lot of work to be done to improve still. But they're not terrible. WvW for example has a lot more depth than many realize still. Me and my friends log in on a daily basis just to do WvW! Your server may not always be winning, but that's war for you, there are ups and downs and you need to constantly stay one step ahead of your enemies to gain advantages.
On top of all of this, the game is FREE. You have no monthly fees to pay and no time requirement to put in. If you're bored you can take a break and play other games and come back later to check out what's going on in the world of Guild Wars 2.
I know i sound like a fan boy. I am, to some degree. I've been waiting for over 7 years for WvW, a siege based 3 world battlefield. But I'm also terribly bored of the repeated threads of people who are bored and feel the need to plague those who are not with their emotional rollercoaster.
If you want help or feedback on what you can do in this game or maybe improve your experience, feel free to ask here and i will try to answer as best as i can. I'm pretty sure there's something for everyone to enjoy in this game to some extent.
As final advice, be patient guys. No game has launched and been absolutely flawless. (Although some have come close) Give ArenaNet time to sort out their bugs and lose ends, I'm sure they have big plans ahead for us. Remember, you're not paying a subscription fee, so patience is free.
Edit: I realize that i was being overly general when i said that this game wasn't a PvE game and mainly PvP. There is a lot to do in PvE as well, there's no doubt about that. And the PvE content is very enjoyable. I was mainly aiming at people who expected PvE to be a tier based progressive content. You won't find raid dungeons to repeatedly clear on a daily or weekly basis here. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy PvE though!
Also, please stop reading into things guys. I'm not telling you what to do here. I'm trying to tell you that you have a choice to do exactly whatever you want to do. If you decide that this game is boring then you don't have to stay and play it. I just think that if you're sticking to a game despite not liking it, the least you can do is not bother the people who actually enjoy it. If you have constructive ways of improving the game then reach out to the developers and let them know.
Some people will probably tell me to just stop reading forums. And you're right, why even bother with complainers?
So what's my point here?
For once, i would like an MMO to either completely skip phase "One month after release where are my flying mounts and expansions" or at least decrease the overwhelming pile of blockage on our forums that it has become the last few years.
It would be unwise of me to create a thread where i cry about people crying, however.
Let me try to point you in the right direction instead!
Games are games
First of all, you all need to learn that games are made to be enjoyed as a hobby or activity outside of your daily life. (Unless you're a pro gamer)
Not all MMO's will have exactly everything that your previous MMO had. This is truth. You cannot escape this. You cannot force developers to create a game customized for you. You can give constructive feedback on how the game could improve or point out the flaws that you think they need to focus more on.
Appreciate individuality
Games represent the developers vision. There are different MMO's for all kind of play styles on the market. The main issue is that people are focusing to much on "should, could, would" instead of enjoying what already is.
Guild Wars 2 is a PvP game. It does have a lot of PvE content for being a PvP game, but it is still mainly focused on PvP. There are no raids or bosses to repeatedly kill on a daily or weekly basis.
Now i agree with some of you, (t/s)PvP and WvW has a lot of work to be done to improve still. But they're not terrible. WvW for example has a lot more depth than many realize still. Me and my friends log in on a daily basis just to do WvW! Your server may not always be winning, but that's war for you, there are ups and downs and you need to constantly stay one step ahead of your enemies to gain advantages.
On top of all of this, the game is FREE. You have no monthly fees to pay and no time requirement to put in. If you're bored you can take a break and play other games and come back later to check out what's going on in the world of Guild Wars 2.
I know i sound like a fan boy. I am, to some degree. I've been waiting for over 7 years for WvW, a siege based 3 world battlefield. But I'm also terribly bored of the repeated threads of people who are bored and feel the need to plague those who are not with their emotional rollercoaster.
If you want help or feedback on what you can do in this game or maybe improve your experience, feel free to ask here and i will try to answer as best as i can. I'm pretty sure there's something for everyone to enjoy in this game to some extent.
As final advice, be patient guys. No game has launched and been absolutely flawless. (Although some have come close) Give ArenaNet time to sort out their bugs and lose ends, I'm sure they have big plans ahead for us. Remember, you're not paying a subscription fee, so patience is free.
Edit: I realize that i was being overly general when i said that this game wasn't a PvE game and mainly PvP. There is a lot to do in PvE as well, there's no doubt about that. And the PvE content is very enjoyable. I was mainly aiming at people who expected PvE to be a tier based progressive content. You won't find raid dungeons to repeatedly clear on a daily or weekly basis here. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy PvE though!
Also, please stop reading into things guys. I'm not telling you what to do here. I'm trying to tell you that you have a choice to do exactly whatever you want to do. If you decide that this game is boring then you don't have to stay and play it. I just think that if you're sticking to a game despite not liking it, the least you can do is not bother the people who actually enjoy it. If you have constructive ways of improving the game then reach out to the developers and let them know.
#1734128 I'm complaining about something that you may or may not care about
Posted
gobberpooper
on 14 August 2012 - 10:45 PM
Arena Net hinted at maybe doing something and I still haven't seen it, even though the game hasn't been released. I'm here to complain about it because there's few things I have to complain about.
As a spoiled kid, I hate Arena Net for giving a nonexistant advantage I've imagined to players who don't have my divine right to get everything I want. Furthermore, I'm pissed off that people can get this aforementioned advantage by paying slightly more and helping out a company they love, which isn't allowed because I hate them as I said before. Even if that advantage is in PvE and will affect me in no way, I'm pissed off because my parents said I'm special, and things like this don't make me feel special.
I feel like I'm being forced to have fun and get my money's worth. Well up yours, Anet! I enjoy throwing $60 away and rushing through a game to feel a false sense of accomplishment. Leveling is a grind, fighting is a grind, running from point A to point B is a grind. Pressing buttons to use skills is spamming. Using a mouse and keyboard is clunky. No matter what profession I play, I lose. Every profession is UP. Unless I'm not using it, then it's OP. If my opponent and I are using the same profession and I lose, then obviously he just used the cash store to get better gear because there's no way I suck at a game I'm not used to.
Why haven't they told us anything about the entire plot of the game? I feel left out in the dark if the company doesn't release a statement to the press summarizing the whole plot and spoiling everything. The plot should be as spoiled as I am: completely. Just because the game isn't released doesn't give this stupid company and it's stupid community the right to deprive me of every tiny detail about every minute feature.
I hate grinds. Why isn't the endgame a grind? I want grind-rich features. I hate grinds.
As a spoiled kid, I hate Arena Net for giving a nonexistant advantage I've imagined to players who don't have my divine right to get everything I want. Furthermore, I'm pissed off that people can get this aforementioned advantage by paying slightly more and helping out a company they love, which isn't allowed because I hate them as I said before. Even if that advantage is in PvE and will affect me in no way, I'm pissed off because my parents said I'm special, and things like this don't make me feel special.
I feel like I'm being forced to have fun and get my money's worth. Well up yours, Anet! I enjoy throwing $60 away and rushing through a game to feel a false sense of accomplishment. Leveling is a grind, fighting is a grind, running from point A to point B is a grind. Pressing buttons to use skills is spamming. Using a mouse and keyboard is clunky. No matter what profession I play, I lose. Every profession is UP. Unless I'm not using it, then it's OP. If my opponent and I are using the same profession and I lose, then obviously he just used the cash store to get better gear because there's no way I suck at a game I'm not used to.
Why haven't they told us anything about the entire plot of the game? I feel left out in the dark if the company doesn't release a statement to the press summarizing the whole plot and spoiling everything. The plot should be as spoiled as I am: completely. Just because the game isn't released doesn't give this stupid company and it's stupid community the right to deprive me of every tiny detail about every minute feature.
I hate grinds. Why isn't the endgame a grind? I want grind-rich features. I hate grinds.
Spoiler
.....Yes people this is a joke. I tried to make it as ridiculous sounding as possible by insulting "myself" but I guess even still the sarcasm was lost on some
#1719133 Guild Wars 2 Steam grid images
Posted
Maawdawg
on 12 August 2012 - 05:00 PM
Now that Steam allows custom grid images for their library (and non steam games) I decided to format some grid images for GW2 so people could pretty up their grid view. These are all google/bing searched wallpapers and images that I scaled, cropped, and layered (and sometimes edited) the logos into to look good on the grid view.
There are a handful of samples below and I have 30+ GW2 grids done in my imgur folder. Scroll down in the folder a bit to see them all.
To use them just set a shortcut for the game in steam, go to your library in grid view, right click the game and hit "Set Custom Image", then choose whatever grid you have saved to your PC. Be sure to save the full size 800x374 pixel image.
Enjoy!






Note: I hope this is the right place for these. I wasn't sure whether to put them in the wallpaper section or just in community content. If it belong somewhere could someone drop it there? Thanks.
There are a handful of samples below and I have 30+ GW2 grids done in my imgur folder. Scroll down in the folder a bit to see them all.
To use them just set a shortcut for the game in steam, go to your library in grid view, right click the game and hit "Set Custom Image", then choose whatever grid you have saved to your PC. Be sure to save the full size 800x374 pixel image.
Enjoy!






Note: I hope this is the right place for these. I wasn't sure whether to put them in the wallpaper section or just in community content. If it belong somewhere could someone drop it there? Thanks.
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