Alesthes

You ever heard of that the Monkey's usually scream the loudest :]?

This is just me voicing my opinion after reading so many posts about people leaving and lower player number etc. To be honest i really love Guild Wars 2, I'm ex GW1 and the way GW2 plays is perfect for me, I played all Beta's and was on 24/7 for the 1st few months. I dropped back to a few hours a day with odd days i'm to busy to get on. I enjoy how each class plays and have never been the sort of gamer to rush to end game content. The fact you can enjoy any area on any level toon is great and I'll be leveling my toons until all 7 are level 80. I can see the major content that would be in the works being an ex gw1'r and knowing how much more there is to tyria so in saying that. I'm not stressing over lack of content and i'm just taking the time to enjoy it. I have a level 80 guard, 30 warrior, 30 elementalist, 12 theif, 5 ranger, 3 engineer and a level 2 necro. I'm going to enjoy leveling away on these despite those who crave end game leaving i'll be here long term and loving it, keep up the epic work Anet. I'm a player indefinate!

Ps' the multi guild option SUX!!!! we need gw1 style guilding!!!!

I really don't envy the life of a game developer, it must be very disheartening to be constantly moaned at by your player-base. How much is enough for the MMO gamer? Will you or I ever be pleased?
"oh this is too easy"
"this is too hard"
"this is too grindy"
"there isnt enough grind, nothing to do"
"too much to do"
"too random"
  "ugh, such boring loot we all have the same"
  and it just keeps going.

The fact is they cant please everyone, no one can. Do we have to jump on every decision? Every piece of content? It will never be perfect for us all.
Look at the clock-tower, the dev actually apologized for making it too hard? Are we all that pathetic that any challenge in a video game is cried about so much, we need a sorry note from the creator?

Most of us gamers now are 18-30, we grew up with games...cant we all just grow up in general? Sure post constructive posts about issues, but leave the crying in the cot with the bottle.

im a level 29 now, and i feel like i havent even begun to scratch the surface of the surface.  i suggest you go through all the areas and just do hearts, so much to do i nthe game, its overwhelming.

I have the opposite problem.  My progress towards my legendaries has been all but halted due to my spending on alts.  I find that each play through is turning out so different that I keep bouncing around and I feel like I'm not getting the same amount "done" as I was when I was just playing my main.

I AM however, having problems finishing alts due to leveling other Alts.......  MY necro is stuck as 61 now cause I've been leveling my mes.

Dulu, on 18 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

game was never bad in the first place. It might have not suited your tastes but it's not a bad game.

So no, for you it's 99% sure not worth coming back. Not like you must resub or anything. Afterall would've been easier logging than making new thread but w/e

Soki, on 19 November 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Have you finished all fractals, all levels? Are you at the top of pvp? If answer is no then hold your horses man.

cthulhuazathoth, on 17 November 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

1. I haven't tried that but earlier I asked a friend and he mentioned a bug. He was also stuck at some part in the quest.
2. Totally have to disagree here. A friend and I made a party inviting people we didn't know. It was - of course since it's new - not only very easy to find players for our group but all were very patient exploring the different parts and finding out the mechanics to beat boss or to advance in general. Maybe I got lucky today with the groups since PuGs can be everything from really bad to great teams. But I really disagree with you when you talk about "regular grind". No grinding here at all in my oppinion.
3. Well I haven't seen any of those but I guess it's always a question of what taste a person has.

cthulhuazathoth, on 17 November 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

Guild.. run the dungeon with your Guild in Guild Wars 2. No issues then!

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I stopped reading here.

This was stated well before release that it was decided to change Dyes from account bound to character bound. In no way did ArenaNet promise account bound dyes and then surprised everyone with a punch to the face at launch. Fair warning was given.

If you seem to hate the game enough to pick on such a small thing, maybe you should look elsewhere, because you seem far too narrowminded to enjoy it here. Problems happen, things change, get over it.

If you actually want any backed up QQ behind this entire post, perhaps you should post the dates these quotes are from so people can spot the difference between a "Broken promise" and a change while the game was still in alpha stages.

God, can I petition to have you flogged and banned from this forum too? What a drivel.

1. Some things like Security I agree with. However, with others (like Guesting), if there's some sort of problem that isn't easily solved, then you can't hold off launch indefinatly until you've fixed it (since ANet get their funding from NCSoft, they probably had some pressure applied to launch ASAP and fix everything after). More than anything, I think they need more transparency if they're having issues with a particular thing. Sure, some people will bitch, but a lot of people would also appreciate the updates of info.

2. Things are subject to change. They told us this before launch, so I'd consider that fairly acceptable.

3. I think people think of the roles (support, control and damage) too rigidly. Say someone's gone down, and you knock the mobs away from them. Have you just Controlled the mobs, Supported the Downed player, or both? Hardly gospal, but that's my view on it.

4. This is more down to player attitude IMO. A game can only help so far with these issues, ande then it's down to the players to build the community. If you got a group of players that only look out for themselves, no amount of tools will help. Which, to be honest, is quite sad.

5. Not entirely sure what you were expecting, but since the overarching threat in the game is Zhaitan, logic dictates that all stories would end up there as well. However, I haven't played any alts yet, so I can't comment on this one, really.

6. If you do every path once a day, you'll get an entire set of armour and two weapon sets on 13 days. It was different before, sure, but they changed it. I'd hardly consider this a 'grind'.

7. It's only a treadmill if the stats keep going up, and we also don't know how easy these pieces will be to get.

8. Agree on this one, if all you're looking at is progress in aquiring Gold / Karma. I also agree that scaling needs to be harsher for lower level zones.

9. I didn't have this problem. I made myself and my friend gear and levelled up crafting without too much surplus (what surplus I did have I just used a basic salvage kit on and got some mats back)

bcbully1, on 15 November 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

You have some points and I agree that they did change somethings without an obvious reason but to promote the gemstore.  But, there are also things that I think they didn't anticipated would happen so fast, such as the account breaches and the bots.  It looks like they have the bot problem under control now, btw.

And there are untruths in there too.  Legendaries have exactly the same stat as the exotics (exotics being the highest tired gear right now).  They're simply a skin that looks great (to some) and is something to work against.

Dokem, on 15 November 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

This.

I get that people want things to be how they were promised, but in the end there are simply far more important things to worry about, like the world appearing to be going to hell right now. At some point one just has to either accept this is the game they want to play, or decide that it isn't and find something that better resembles their expectation (good luck with that.)

Having said that, there's totally nothing wrong with expecting things, or wanting things to be different. It's whether you convey it in a shrill  chicken-licken tone- that constitutes drama and I find it completely tiresome.

edit: and for the sake of clarity in case anyone's under some kind of delusion that ANet are some kind of theocratic dictatorship setting out to crush your dreams.... you do not pay a sub for this game. If you've gotten 200hrs of play out of it before abandoning it in a fit of pique, then that still constitutes better value for money than the vast majority of games that are released across the formats. Worth thinking about that.

Yep your right! there a evil corporation out to destroy gaming and lie to us all the time!!

Seriously if people dont get that NO game will hit all its bullet points right out of the gate then I dont know what to tell ya.  You get a product as done as done can be then you ship.  MMO's are a living breathing product.  They are NEVER done .. ever.

But sure you can QQ and feel all butt hurt because the church of ANet blasphemed against the holy text or what ever.  OR...
you can realize its just a game and a damn good one and companies do the best they can for spoiled unrealistic gamers.

Or.. maybe just play something else

I only care that I have fun playing this game. The rest is drama.