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kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

No, and try to read better.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

No where in my whole post does the statement "Culling isn't bad" or even the notion of such, ever get mentioned or made. I said it is bad, it is an inconvenience, most bad things are inconveniences, that can be alleviated by scouting. PvE is irrelevant to this discussion, not sure why you bothered to bring it up in a discussion about RvR.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

You either didn't play much or just didn't pay much attention. The game had fundamental design issues, clear class favoritism to a startling degree, broken mechanics and classes, and the performance was utter crap on many a computer that people simply couldn't even play in the big sieges. I'll take culling and a function FPS over what WAR brought around.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

I know I'm not an avid PS2 player, I even stated I didn't like the game. It's not a hard conclusion to draw that, if I prefer WvW to PS2, that I'd likely be playing GW2 and not PS2. But, on the basis, most of your points are equally weak with GW2 in mind.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

The idea behind it was also to help players buy things in the gemstore...

...For which it has succeeded.

Why is this a failure again? RMT will always find ways around systems in place as they have this one by selling things other than gold.

CalmLittleBuddy, on 11 February 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

That's pretty much what you'd get when you have a development team of 3.

Now we have more than 3, so things can't really get worse.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

No.

Culling is bad, its an inconvenience without proper scouting, but its certainly not Warhammer bug/game design bad.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

PS2 has its own issues like the extensive reach of its cash shop. Anecdotal evidence is pretty much pointless though because I can say the reverse of GW2 WvW vs. PS2 combat... which is true for me as much as what you said is true for you, but certainly irrelevant to the discussion overall.

kidawk, on 11 February 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Ever consider that this might have been... for the players?

nf4mous, on 11 February 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

Ever increasing sure is a weird word to use, and I don't think the WvW is mediocre. I think its, well hopefully was, the neglected red-headed step child that turned into a dark horse rather unexpectedly for ANet with an excellent basic core, balance, and thought put into what there is. Consider what they saw it as before launch: a place for PvErs to jump into PvP and have some week-long big, battle conflict. We turned into a hyper competitive, dynamic conflict with guilds regularly developing new tactics and adjusting to said changes in tactics, that all speaks to a good but neglected core design.

Your reference to SBi is also utterly baffling, that wasn't the game's fault. That was WM's last minute, dramatic jump down to Kaineng which shattered the server.

Saying it "too late" is rather short sighted not by comparison to other games but simply by looking back at the history of this franchise itself. People said "too late" and "its over!" back during the starting months of GW1 because of a plethora of bad game design choices that everyone seems to have forgotten existed when looking at GW1 as some sort of bastion of PvP greatness. The game's popularity and potential as an e-sport most certainly didn't take off until WM and EvIL faced off in the first World Champhionship, after HoH had been left to fester and die off and GvG became accessible to the general public (its like history repeating itself with 8 team tournies goes the way of the dinosaur and 1v1 being much more open and welcoming to the general public), and that wasn't until ~half~ a year into the games life time. There was a major surge after that and into the first expansion... where everything came crashing down because of imbalanced classes; hellloooo Assassin and Treefarmer.

With the introduction of the 1v1 and hidden matchmaking, the PvP has actually spurred itself back to life and getting games going is now possible on an almost instantaneous basis. If they can unhide the matchmaking rankings, ie by ladder and personal ranking scores that everyone can see, come this next update, and bring about observer mode and CA within the month after, we might actually see some life flow back into the competitive nature of the game.

FoxBat, on 07 February 2013 - 05:25 AM, said:

Very well, I apparently cannot read. Go me.

omar316, on 07 February 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

The new map doesn't seem to be KotH/CtP like other maps, this seems to be specifically designed to answer the "no other formats" issue while keeping the general frame work of what sPvP has been so far, and that is a point system but not based on KotH/CtP like everything else but CtF. Actually, I'm not even sure how you got CtP from the preview unless it follows WoW's Eye of the Storm battleground but if that is the case then CtP points would be completely minimal to the CtF aspects, otherwise there'd be no real point to the CtF aspect. Portal is going to need to be adjusted or they may as well just delete the damned thing.

If you follow the sPvP community, you'd know that player ranking has already been stealth introduced as has an invisible ladder system to go along with the system to make an overall matchmaking environment in the past week of 1v1 paids. There's actual life in that arrested coma patient and game pops are nigh instant and players have wandered back into the fold. The use of Khylo next is a good following step, and dismissing Capricorn as a map that never happened is another good step.

Once they polish the maps and introduce full map rotation which, looking at the time line, should be about completed by the time this update rolls out, then the 1v1 will be pretty set as a solid base work for a competitive environment. Matchmaking, rankings, and ladders are pretty much already in the game, they are just invisible at the moment.

There are some other restrictions and fixes that need to be made to really fix up the format but this is a great start. Having an update with this in it is anything but bad even if its late.

I don't see why you or any one would need to be sympathetic or forgiving.

omar316, on 07 February 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Guild Events is certainly new and, as I said, could be rather substantial even if, in words, they are all of a paragraph.