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#2237399 ANET employee trolling GvG

Posted Graka on 28 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

View PostDakan, on 28 September 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

At about minute 22:

The problem is the attitude of the guy while representing Anet. It sheds a bad light on the company as a whole because this is just very very bad community management. I hope Martin makes an appearance and we get an official statement because I don't want to play a game where I'm told I ruining it for "playing how I want to play".

And honestly: they tick for +565 so the GvG doesn't even infringe on normal WvW...

But I'm actually not here to argument but just to spread the word (I don't even GvG).

Wasnt meaning to argue, my point is, its one guy doing it, if what hes doing is wrong, he will most likely be punished. But 'spreading the word' which everyone seems to be doing on reddit, the official forums and now here is making a mountain out of a molehill. Its one guy, and he should be reported the proper manner, not people trying to make a case on GvG, and multiple other issues over this and using this as a soap box to shout their opinions. Its slighty ridiculous the "Oh i showed my friends how this one GM acted and now none of them will buy GW2 and I quit!" um okay, Ive seen worse from tons of different games and never seen the kind of knee jerk reaction and petulant crying that I see here with this. A guy did what some people perceive as a douchebag thing, fine, report it and let it be sorted out. Going "See this means Anet hates all of us and their entire company is against us and F them" is just stupid and seems like people are trying to use this as a rallying call for those that want GvG. Reminds me of Scalx or scrilax or whatever his name is making an hour long video basically saying, they didn't make the game the way I wanted so now I shall bitch and moan for all to hear.

Edit: Also in a situation like this, if the gentleman in question is fired, Anet wont give an 'official' posting about it like some of these people are demanding, because they can't. Unless the person in question is some high up in the company, firing's or letting go are a private matter, they don't go and broadcast it to the world. I'd be highly surprised if they allow this guy to be scapegoated for all the hatred these people feel, if you look at the official forums they almost want this guy to be fired over every slight/mistake/problem they feel there is with the game.

#2234692 [survey] Guild Wars 2, one year later

Posted GameStatistics on 19 September 2013 - 09:20 PM

The survey is now closed.

Thanks to the numerous respondents: almost 6500 complete answers have been collected among the three communities (survey was available in English / French / Spanish, and released in various places for the three languages).

Many comments have been made regarding the survey itself, on the forums, on Reddit, or directly at the end the survey. Be sure that all of them have been read: they are very helpful to help us doing better surveys.

Specifically, for the English translation of the survey, I admit it was not perfect, as some sentences were a bit unclear (sorry for the “implication in a guild”: a false friend for French people…), even if it should not have any consequences on the results.
Note that this was almost the first international survey for GameStatistics: we hope we’ll make better translations next time. By the way, if there is any volunteer to help for these further international surveys (such as quickly checking an English questionnaire), please send a mail to [email protected]. Any help for better translations is welcome! (German people are welcome as well, by the way…)

Regarding the famous question: "when the results will be published?", I won’t promise anything right now.  The results will definitely be available in a public report, as well as they will be sent to ArenaNet. But there is a huge set of data to process, analyze and publish (and also other GameStatistics projects which have to be done as well), which is very time-consuming. Please do not expect results before one or two months at least, but be sure that I’ll come back here for them.

Again, thanks to all the people who joined this survey. I would also like to thank Kwisatz of the Spanish site “Guild Wars 2 Online”, who was a great help for this survey, especially for all the Spanish part (and contrary to the English one, nobody pointed out a bad translation!)

Finally, thanks to the moderators of this forum and especially Underdog, who kindly allowed me to create this thread.

#2233175 Is a Major Stats overhaul inevitable for GW2's future?

Posted Gerroh on 14 September 2013 - 06:39 PM

It's not that we need a stats overhaul, it's that we need a mechanics and enemies overhaul. Very few enemies have protection or counters to direct damage, and condition damage takes time to do what it does, plus it also has a heap of restrictions on it.

Also, we don't have hexes or enchantments, just vastly simplified versions of the two. There's just a huge lack of depth to the game's combat system.

#2231379 Negativity

Posted Chalky on 05 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

I think that's enough posting about posting.

It's difficult to balance criticism against the noise that some disillusioned players make just to kick out against their bitterness, but it's generally better to debate individual criticisms in context than trying to address "negativity" in general.  The fact is that as the shine comes off a game like GW2, satisfaction goes down and irritants become more of an obstacle to people's enjoyment so people are going to complain about things.

That said, those of you who really don't think you enjoy anything about the game any more would probably do yourselves and the rest of the site a favour by trying to move on.  There are lots of games out there, try not to spend your time kicking sand at people who are trying to enjoy something that you don't.

#2231373 Negativity

Posted Swoopeh on 05 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 05 September 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I think you will find that to be completely false and a fake foundation to base your factless argument on, it is not always the same people, it is not just on these forums, it is not the same discussions all the time, it is a mixture of the same discussions because anet keeps repeating those same things, and different discussion as well because anet does different things every few weeks also...

The official forums has already way more negative feedback and topics then here by a lot, maybe you should stop trying to pass the buck at players and maybe ask yourself why are so many people on loads of forums and websites all coming to the same conclusions? Maybe it has something to do with the game and not just the players?

As shown already....

Except that I do read these forums every day and it's pretty clear that there's a select group of people who go out of their way to create a negative atmosphere. That's what this is about. I've already condeded that the issues people are discussing are (mostly) valid, just that they don't have to be repeated 5 times a day and sometimes you *may* look on the bright side and smell the roses.

#2231337 Negativity

Posted dannywolt on 05 September 2013 - 10:08 AM

View Postraspberry jam, on 05 September 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Yeah that is why. Negativity is creeping up through the cracks from nowhere at all, and the huge swarms of people that would be all over this forum if the game was any good are so intimidated by these 10 people that they just shut up instead of posting positive things - because that's what people who love something do.

Or... or it could be that the game really is shit, and that the response from the largest fansite is just an accurate gauge.

Reddit seems to be the most accurate representation of the GW2 community at this point. It's a mixture of positive and negative, likes and dislikes. More importantly, you can find players pointing out fun things they discovered or helping out fellow players with advice: something that has totally vanished from Guru.

The biggest issue with the '10 people' negativity here on Guru is that it is completely imbalanced. I can count on one hand the number of positive posts these negative regulars have made in the last few months. I want balanced discussions, not every Guru member in his or her entrenched position. When a new patch hits I can predict who is saying what here before I even visit.

It's just not fun to be here anymore.

#2231308 Negativity

Posted Swoopeh on 05 September 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostMhenlo, on 05 September 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Negativity wouldn't exist if the game didnt deserve it. People would post more positive stuff if there was more positive stuff to post. Don't pin it on the dissenters that people don't post more positive stuff. That is a bad scapegoat.

View PostFizzypop, on 05 September 2013 - 02:35 AM, said:

Sigh every time this comes up I have to say it again, but just because you can "avoid" the cash grab does NOT mean we have to ignore it. We shouldn't ignore it because ignoring the problem will only make it worse. Do you remember the saying "Give them an inch, they take a mile?" this is exactly that. Every inch we give they are going to take a mile. Moving forward doesn't mean accepting whatever someone throws at you either.

View PostDaesu, on 05 September 2013 - 05:46 AM, said:

Or you can just ask a moderator to perma ban all of us who feel negative about the game but that sounds like it maybe a conflict of interest with the forum admins.  ;)
If this forum doesn't take negativity about the game because the devs don't view it, then it shouldn't take positivity about the game either for the same reason.  So there is no reason for guru to even exist then.

View PostRedhawk2007, on 05 September 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

If you disagree with someone's criticism of the game, the correct response is to address those aspects of the criticism you disagree with and why. Attacking the player base for making criticisms is really just ad hominem trolling.

Yeah you guys REALLY just don't understand the issue here, or simply don't want to. Try actually reading what people post here instead of coming to conclusions based on the thread title and perhaps half of the OP, it may help.

Noone is saying the game is perfect, or that you shouldn't discuss the negative issues with the game. That is indeed what a discussion forum is (partly) about. Hell I agree with most of them, although I don't care as much, and if you're passionate about it thats actually a good thing. The problem is that almost every thread gets derailed with the exact same arguments over and over again which by now we are well aware of (see davadude's post above as well), whether we agree or not. Plus there's the whole conspiracy thing that's blown way out of proportion. Trust me, if the devs do read these forums I'm sure they've picked up on your issues by now. About 153 times.

Discussing the issues in the game is one thing, but people going out of their way to bash at every opportunity they're given and even changing their avatar and sig to become banners for how terrible it all is, then it becomes a hyperbole filled obsession. At that point there is no discussion anymore because those people will never be swayed to think otherwise as they're already convinced they're right and just want others to agree with them (and anyone who doesn't is immediately labeled a fanboy). The point of a discussion is that there's a chance for both sides to be swayed by each other's arguments but clearly that won't happen.

View PostEon Lilu, on 04 September 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Maybe the increase in negative posts is in line with the increase in unhappiness from more and more plays in GW2? Maybe more players are unhappy with the direction in which Arena Net are taking the game they wanted to love and enjoy? Maybe more players are waking up?

No, it's the same people who have made it a holy crusade to go out of their way to bash the game and Anet.
The vocal minority always seems louder because they spam every thread with the same arguments, besides posting their own. The positive posts diminish because people are driven away, or they simply stop playing if they don't like the game, possibly notifying Anet of why they're disgruntled on their forums, Reddit or FB page and leaving it at that.

View PostFizzypop, on 05 September 2013 - 02:35 AM, said:

Then start your own thread about the patch? You honestly shouldn't dictate what other people post or start threads about. If you don't like a comment nor want to see it again then stop reading it, stop responding, and create your own threads for the topics you want to see covered. That is the solution.

Yeah that won't work when someone makes their own thread about the topic and the bashers come in again and derail it.

#2231271 Negativity

Posted davadude on 05 September 2013 - 05:21 AM

View PostDarkobra, on 05 September 2013 - 02:29 AM, said:

Where were these "All we see is negativity" threads then? Ursan Blessing added? A war with two sides. People who loved how easy it made the game and people who said "It's nothing but grind and it's required to play the game!" While I played the game doing things with 7 heroes that they couldn't even comprehend. "But what about the other 5 ursans?"

Wow, you had 7 party heroes during Ursan!???  You must've had a game client that was somehow 1.5 years into the future!

View PostRedhawk2007, on 05 September 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Whenever a company does something stupid expect sensible people to complain about it.

It's not sensible to turn a content addition into a conspiracy about how Arenanet only wants to sell gems, how gems are required, how Guild Wars 2 is a lie, and how every thread is turned into a hate thread, even those which are discussing an upcoming update (where, the generic club instantly throws out a "IT'S ALL GEMS AND CONSPIWAACY WAAA!" without any evidence, clue, or information about what's in the patch or what it is about).  You'll notice that threads in which complains are brought up and the OP argues and debates for the case, it becomes a beneficial and interesting debate.  Sadly, that is so until it's derailed into oblivion.

To the OP:  I've said this hundreds of times.   All good and interesting threads, pro or anti game, will be derailed by the same crowd over and over again with the same weak reasons, excuses, and baseless arguments.  I'm sorry, but for you, the GW2 official forums are a better place to be (and that says quite something about these).

#2231269 Negativity

Posted Phenn on 05 September 2013 - 05:07 AM

There is nothing constructive about complaining on a forum that the devs don't read. That's what bothers me the most about the Guru complainers. For it to be worth ANYTHING in the grand scheme of progressing the game, complaints need to be done where the devs can see them.

If the devs choose to ignore the official forums, or even Guru (should they read it), complaining more will not change a thing.


I like Guru for the community when it puts forward effort toward making the game "work" despite its faults, and generally trying to make the best of both the good and the bad. Anymore, however, few people if any are putting any work into enjoying the game. Rather, the few vocal people left simply gripe. And it accomplishes nothing positive.

Absolutely nothing.

If you need me, I'll be over in the Necro forum working on having fun with a borked class in a borked game (or so I'm told).

#2231258 Negativity

Posted Arewn on 05 September 2013 - 04:01 AM

View PostMhenlo, on 05 September 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Negativity wouldn't exist if the game didnt deserve it. People would post more positive stuff if there was more positive stuff to post. Don't pin it on the dissenters that people don't post more positive stuff. That is a bad scapegoat.
Right.. because everyone is perfectly unbiased and just.

#2231188 Negativity

Posted Lordkrall on 04 September 2013 - 10:28 PM

I think the main issue is that most people that actually like the game don't even bother reading these forums anymore due to the fact that more or less every single thread is filled with bashing the game or ArenaNet.

#2231141 Negativity

Posted OriginalSinX on 04 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

The more i read all these topics, the more i realize the vast majority of people on these forums are hugely negative.  I question why the people here still play if they are so unhappy.  I have been playing this game since beta and i and for the first time ready to stop going to this website, as its is just a bunch of unhappy men ages 30-40 who seem to only be happy when they are unhappy.  GW2GURU, i'm sorry but i cannot see any reason to keep checking in with you and i will either just use gw2 forums, or try and find any group of people that are happier then this sad sack of potatoes here.  GL with all the unhappiness all :).

#2231172 Negativity

Posted Arewn on 04 September 2013 - 10:03 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 04 September 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Maybe the increase in negative posts is in line with the increase in unhappiness from more and more plays in GW2? Maybe more players are unhappy with the direction in which Arena Net are taking the game they wanted to love and enjoy? Maybe more players are waking up? I mean some of you like to make out it's always the same few people posting, but if you take a look you will see it's actually more new people speaking up about the negative aspects of GW2, not just the same usual people as you try to make out...

Just a thought.
It's not "an increase" in negative posts though.
Guru has a decent size user base, but is small enough that you can recognize the regulars if you frequent the forums enough. Unfortunately, there's a number of those regulars who have made it their daily 'habit' or 'ritual' to come make a slew of negative posts on what ever they can find. Some of these users, by the sounds of it, actually play GW2 regularly and I think just do it out of habit at this point (discussion is discussion after all, what ever gets ya going).
This has been going on for months upon months, it's not a new phenomena and has been discussed and brought up a number of times. The op is just the next person to get fed up and leave, as the guru community slowly bleeds out.

#2231168 Negativity

Posted Arewn on 04 September 2013 - 09:56 PM

A thread about the negative attitudes on guru being derailed by those very same negative attitudes on guru... wow.
Forums are a natural ground for complaints, it comes with the turf, it's one of the main reasons/motives for posting on a forum in the first place.Have a problem with something? go talk about it on the forums. But another important aspect to a healthy forum community is wholesome discussion about the game itself, and I absolutely agree that that aspect is being drowned out by the constant influx of negativity put out by a number of regulars here on guru, making it an uncomfortable place to post and actively inhibiting discussion.

#2231167 Negativity

Posted HawkofStorms on 04 September 2013 - 09:55 PM

Once again, more posts not actually discussing the topic of this thread (the negativity on these forums) or the content of the game, but instead going off topic discussing the cash shop agenda, the evilness of A.net, or the bugginess of the game... or something.

I used to be able to come here for stuff that I now have to go to Dulfy for.  Guides, screenshots, discussions of tips, tricks, tactics, the game economy, etc.  People who make that sort of content no longer post here.  I go elsewhere for that now.