johnnyutah21, on 05 February 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:
I think I speak for those organizing on Kaineng when I say we acknowledge our weakness which was very apparent in Kaineng Borderlands. Keep in mind in other BL's (such as the one TL/Run/Meow ran) we held 2 keeps without issue during/after reset. I don't think Kaineng would have been as close (12AM) had it not been for the 80+ PPT we were bringing in that night, because every the other BLs were pulling 30 or less for most of the night (we had one borderland with nothing but a camp *cries*). The "alliance" that stationed themselves in Kaineng BL spoke of queue issues, but I cannot confirm or deny they were limited to "60" on the map as they stated officially. "Meh". Meh I say.
Strategically, I would not be so quick to discount the *entire* NA pop. We are only 2-3 weeks organized and relatively what you can call a "young" server as WM likes to call it -- meaning we are not "naturally" acclimated to each other. The more we collaborate and work on queue rotations and campaign metas, the more in-line we will be with other T1 servers who have had communities and organization dating months and months.
WM International (NA time) held SM the entire time, having lost almost everything else on the map. 80-90 + 50-60 + 35 + 5 = Around 190-200, which every side who was there that night will remember Kaineng hovering around. Of course, you can always watch streams for proof. I believe them when they said they were being double teamed however, but at the same time, that's the nature of the game. There is nothing "cheap" about being teamed up on, it's an honor really and they should take it as such. WM is great, but not the whole package alone. There was some bickering and such being thrown around behind the scenes, but it seems most of that has dwindled -- as once the matchups started and guilds and alliances had their chance to show their "prowess" in dedicated maps, it became very clear who had room to speak and who didn't. Naturally I think some respect was developed since and it has shown in meetings/discussions thereafter.
TL;dr NA is still getting organized as a whole, we are all new to each other and it will take some time, Oceanic crew is about the same as they were on SBI/IoJ, and they are doing fine.
We'll see you all in T1/T2 with our quaggan backpacks cause were awesome like that.

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