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#2203140 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted smoke070z on 17 May 2013 - 08:03 PM

wow i've just read the news of no further development! predictable yet extremely saddening. at least the game will still be available to play, but still its far past its prime quite obviously.

i wish just guild wars 2 had the complexity, charm, and atmosphere the original did. i think there's something about those big green fields in pre-searing that'll always have a place in our hearts. :) i've had some of the best gaming moments of my life in this game.

i can't be the only one who tears up when they hear this song :D


#2203115 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Rabbit on 17 May 2013 - 07:05 PM

Although I enjoy GW2, I would much have preferred to see a GW1 styled sequel. I can't put my finger on it, but GW1 had that "stickiness" that made me play for thousands of hours, and even though I got bored of GW1 I always came back after a few weeks. And like I said, I do enjoy GW2, but I does not have that "stickiness" and I seriously doubt I will spend as much time in GW2 as I did in GW1.

Like someone said before, GW2 feels so incredibly dumbed down. I thoroughly enjoyed making builds for a 8 man party, even though the builds wasn't always the best, It was a lot of fun. I also miss missions, dungeons, elite areas etc. That truly was social group content. I have many great memories and favorite moments while doing these types of activities with my guildies.
Heck, GW1 made (most) farming FUN, something that GW2 failed completely.

Someone also said that the replay ability in GW2 isn't there, which I kind of agree with, sure the DE's in GW2 makes it a bit more fun to map another character, but it is tedious.
I am a very lore driven player, and can see past rather boring game play if the story is good. From a story aspect the replay ability is only there until you get to your order, after that the story is not only boring (imo) but also incredibly non interesting and lackluster. I liked the mix of quests and missions in GW1.
Dragons are boring
. They would have been more interesting if they actually inflicted some kind of fear or horror, like Abaddon or Realm of Torment. That place was scary! The looks, the feels, the reasons you were there. The only thing I feel when I think of the dragons in GW2 is annoyance.
GW1 had so much fantastic lore that just isn't there (yet), I do understand that the game is still young and plenty of lore will be added and expanded upon, but we have to get rid of these bloody dragons first. Hopefully ANet have heard that the dragons are not very interesting and will spice things up a bit.

And not to bring up GW2's gemstore and it's RNG bullshait, but that is starting to get to me as well.

I do enjoy the game, but for how long? I'm starting to get a bot bored atm, but log on to hang with my guildies that I got to know a few years ago in GW1. The living story just doesn't do it for me. I'm not really interested in the new Southsun stuff, but after reading some of the stuff about Consortium representing NCSoft and Nexon, I might actually get in there and explore some :D


#2203112 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted dimiguel on 17 May 2013 - 07:01 PM

View PostCaptain Bulldozer, on 17 May 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

I agree.  And the problem really is that, when players feel betrayed, they cease purchasing products from that company permanently, and even actively work to stop others from purchasing new products from said company.  Sure, GW2 might have gained Anet/NCSoft some customers fleeing from the disintegration of WoW (due to age), but its not a strong enough game in my opinion to keep them coming back for more (and the sales figures from NCSoft in the last quarter support this).  So the increase in customer base is temporary, but its also combined with a longer-term trend of pissing customers off, quite possibly losing them forever.  It very well may be that Anet set its sights too high and will pay the price for years to come.  Time will tell.

This. This a million times.

I was so supportive of ArenaNet as developers and all I wanted was to see them succeed with the Guild Wars franchise. I thought Guild Wars 2 would be the game to trump all MMOs, simply because the design of Guild Wars is genius. It is such a beautiful game in so many ways, to the point that if it was only made a little more accessible to other players they would have had a titan of a game.

Guild Wars 2 is not what I wanted at all. In fact, I feel kind of... played for a fool. It's almost the same feeling I got when I played Diablo III. I do not recommend Guild Wars 2 to anyone at all. In fact, I even mention to my friends how much they should avoid Guild Wars 2. All of my friends have stopped playing it. ArenaNet has lost a customer in me and it's going to take a lot for them to get me back...

If only they would have stuck with the original formula and created a persistent world around it... they could have changed MMOs forever.


#2203053 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted tagomago on 17 May 2013 - 04:44 PM

Thread of the Year!
They should make a new GW already!


#2203041 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Draino on 17 May 2013 - 04:06 PM

I'll always miss GW. Builds? I had a stack of printed build reference materials that filled a drawer, six inches high. I'd spend hours working on a build sometimes, and my m8s and I would test ourselves by dueling against one another at the Guild Hall. I was a solo farmer, and an obsidian tank for the team. We'd often team to help a newer guildie cap an elite he needed, maybe out in the wondrous weirdness of the Jade Sea. Sometimes I'd just go to Shing Jea to sit on the North Shore for a while to look at the art of the place.

I find little of this wonder in the "sequel." Having to remind myself to get on and faceroll to do dailies and a couple of chests, these days. Spending most of my time in another MMO.

Waited many years for this "sequel." Makes me really sad.


#2203035 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Kumpeltor on 17 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

What I loved about GW and that I miss in GW2:

- The incredibly large panel of skills.
- The ability to capture elite skills from bosses.
- The inability to walk through enemies.
- Low HP pool, and low damage figures (around 100-200HP). That way, a level 5 could kill a level 20.

Having some talent to play the game actually matered.

That does not mean that I don't like GW2, some faces of the game are interesting (dodging, combo, etc); but the elements that made GW1 a different and great game to me are not present.

Please Anet, give the bosses elite skills that we can capture; and enrich our skill list!


#2203026 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Captain Bulldozer on 17 May 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostTranquility, on 17 May 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Been pretty much the MO for all sequels for the past 5-6 years.

"Fix" things that aren't broken, leave things that are. I really just don't understand what inspires devs to just dump everything about the previous game and go a completely different direction with a sequel.

The couple games that have stuck to the same formula but just refined it have been met with incredible success. Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Dark Souls.

Then you have games that were major disappointments that decided that "fans don't know best" and completely change everything. Diablo 3, SimCity, and GW2. Yes, some people like the "new version" of the games, but just as many people feel betrayed.

I agree.  And the problem really is that, when players feel betrayed, they cease purchasing products from that company permanently, and even actively work to stop others from purchasing new products from said company.  Sure, GW2 might have gained Anet/NCSoft some customers fleeing from the disintegration of WoW (due to age), but its not a strong enough game in my opinion to keep them coming back for more (and the sales figures from NCSoft in the last quarter support this).  So the increase in customer base is temporary, but its also combined with a longer-term trend of pissing customers off, quite possibly losing them forever.  It very well may be that Anet set its sights too high and will pay the price for years to come.  Time will tell.


#2203019 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Tranquility on 17 May 2013 - 02:56 PM

View PostDarkHorseKnight, on 17 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

In my mind they overdid it.  A somewhat overly complicated skill system was replaced with an overly rigid and ultimately boring skill system. The skill based mechanics that often made certain areas seem very hard until you figured out how to counter them have been replaced with such a lack of mechanics that most bosses are just damage sponges. Having to specialize your build too often was replaced with specialization becoming non existent. All of the sort of semi unintended but ultimatly fun aspects such as solo farming, point to point running serves, power leveling, were removed.

Been pretty much the MO for all sequels for the past 5-6 years.

"Fix" things that aren't broken, leave things that are. I really just don't understand what inspires devs to just dump everything about the previous game and go a completely different direction with a sequel.

The couple games that have stuck to the same formula but just refined it have been met with incredible success. Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Dark Souls.

Then you have games that were major disappointments that decided that "fans don't know best" and completely change everything. Diablo 3, SimCity, and GW2. Yes, some people like the "new version" of the games, but just as many people feel betrayed.


#2203014 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Tranquility on 17 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

Went back and played GW.

Stayed for 4-5 hours.

Enjoyed myself.


#2202993 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted DarkHorseKnight on 17 May 2013 - 01:35 PM

I do like GuildWars2. But GuildWars2 is not the successor of the original. GuildWars2 retains very little if anything from Guild Wars.

GW2 was supposed to be a "purified" version of GW with some more traditional MMO aspects.

In my mind they overdid it.  A somewhat overly complicated skill system was replaced with an overly rigid and ultimately boring skill system. The skill based mechanics that often made certain areas seem very hard until you figured out how to counter them have been replaced with such a lack of mechanics that most bosses are just damage sponges. Having to specialize your build too often was replaced with specialization becoming non existent. All of the sort of semi unintended but ultimatly fun aspects such as solo farming, point to point running serves, power leveling, were removed.

Now I do like GW2, the game engine itself is quite good, the underlying base game is quite good. But after the original game the delivered content of this game just feels to conservative. Things are dumbed down too much.


#2202988 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Sir_Iceman on 17 May 2013 - 01:18 PM

I’m somewhere in between the OP & Cevilo. I’ve grown to not dislike GW2. It has its merits. And I’ll most likely play it a while longer. Not likely there will be a new full campaign for GW1. But it’s not at all the same game. This is Guild Wars in name only. GW1 was a great game. Sure it had its flaws, but overall it was fun. The replay ability of GW1 was a great staying force. I played it from the betas for 6 years solid. Although, the last year was a bit mind numbing. I’d done all 3 campaigns & GW:EN with all 10 classes. So I took a year off to see what all the hype of WOW was. If we remember, most of the whining in the GW1 forums was how GW1 wasn’t WOW. Thought I’d take a look at it while waiting for GW2. Got bored and was glad to see GW2 on the horizon. Unfortunately it looks like Anet gave the whiners what they wanted, ‘WOW light’. IMHO, the replay ability just isn’t there. Each zone is pretty much like the previous one, only a slightly higher level. Pretty much like WOW. I find GW2 a bit pointless once you’ve gotten to the end. It’s mostly a grind fest or zerg fest. The mission structure of GW1 although somewhat linear, presented different challenges that required group planning to a degree. And I really miss my group :(  At this point I’d be happy with ‘Alesia the stupid’ as a companion! GW1 had a certain something to it that made you want to play it over and over again. There was some grind to GW1, but at least it was more profitable and thus, less monotonous. Unfortunately GW1 is just a wasteland now. With nothing new to retain the interest, there’s not much point in going back.

A big thanks to Anet for GW1, you had it right and many of us had great times and lots of fun!


#2202904 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Baron von Scrufflebutt on 17 May 2013 - 06:32 AM

1. Ritualists.
2. Mesmers.
3. Fort Aspenwood.
4. Cantha.
5. Pretty lovely PvE design.
6. Non-existent levels.

I want to go to there.
(Too bad that the "there" is dead. :()


#2202899 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Azure Skye on 17 May 2013 - 06:18 AM

View PostTranquility, on 17 May 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

This argument is always so flawed.

Liking something doesn't mean it's content doesn't become stale and/or outdated. By your logic, if a movie does something right then no other movie should do that right as well simply because the first movie still exists. As much as I liked Fellowship of the Ring, I still would have been disappointed if Two Towers turned out to be as bad as Twilight.
Its nostalgia. They said before they couldn't do want they wanted with it, they moved to gw2 and trashed utopia. I like it but its rigid for my taste now.


#2202897 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Tranquility on 17 May 2013 - 06:14 AM

View PostAzure Skye, on 17 May 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

GW1 isn't down, you can still play it.

This argument is always so flawed.

Liking something doesn't mean it's content doesn't become stale and/or outdated. By your logic, if a movie does something right then no other movie should do that right as well simply because the first movie still exists. As much as I liked Fellowship of the Ring, I still would have been disappointed if Two Towers turned out to be as bad as Twilight.


#2202895 I just miss Guild Wars

Posted Azure Skye on 17 May 2013 - 06:04 AM

The game is still there, I'm not interested it anymore because everything i wanted left to another game till GW2.

GW1 isn't down, you can still play it.