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#2156707 Cosmetic Reward is not the best carrot for an MMO

Posted Eliirae on 02 February 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostArquenya, on 02 February 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

So people need extrinsic rewards, "carrots", like gold, better stats and cosmetics and the like.

Nope, I'm not saying any of that which I removed from your quote.  I'm saying exactly what I'm quoting you on: If you feel like you NEED a reward to justify your playing a game, then that's the opposite of what GW2 is trying to get at.  Once people start thinking that they NEED to be rewarded for something that was once fun, it becomes a job.  Playing a game solely for the endgame, or for better loot etc turns the game into a job.

But the reason they felt like they needed to be rewarded was because the game stopped being fun, right?  No.  The entire idea of deserving a reward is the reason why fun just disappears all together.

And therein lies the idea that people aren't ready.  They aren't ready to play a game because it can be a fun little time waster, because they want to play a game to be rewarded with epic lewt, which GW2 doesn't deliver.

Which is I suppose why someone like me, who never really reached the endgames of WoW and raiding and all that, is able to enjoy the game even if I happen to run the same event chains multiple times, sometimes in a row:  Because I never adopted the mindset that the game needed to reward me to justify why I'm playing it.


#1450749 Speculative Release Date Thread: The Ninth Part

Posted Nerokis on 16 May 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostThe Axe Effect, on 16 May 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Again, you are wrong. Please take a look at things objectivelly.

People are angry because:
1) They paid for a product and are not receiving information regarding the progress of the product in terms of developement. You can spew that "it will be done in 2012" hogwash all you want. But one fact remains certain: you don't know if that quote remains to be true or not.

2) ArenaNet is completely ignoring the customer by their inane silence. Remaining silent during the games early/middle years of developement makes perfect sense. They said that they will release it in 2012, guess what? It is half-way through 2012, the supposed year of release, and they completely shut the blinds to customers who have already paid.

If you looked at it objectively, you wouldn't be pretending that ArenaNet has been totally silent. They haven't. For one, they guaranteed the game would be released in 2012. Two, they've constantly emphasized that the game would be released when it's ready, and not at any point before. Three, they've said that beta testing, including the BWEs everyone who pre-purchased the game is given access to, would help determine the release date. They've confirmed that there will be a BWE roughly once a month (that doesn't mean every month there will be a BWE), that this schedule isn't set in stone, and that they're not sure yet how many BWEs there will be.

They've said things like this: Last week we held our first-ever Beta Weekend Event, a humble in-game get together attended by hundreds of thousands of our closest friends. This was an old-school beta; a lot of the lessons learned and data collected from the event are being applied toward improving the game as I write this. We want to extend a huge thanks to everyone who played. Your feedback, bugs, and participation are absolutely crucial to our goal of making Guild Wars 2 the best game possible at launch.

And like this: This was definitely a real beta, designed to find problems, gather player input, and learn what work still needs to be done before we ship the game. We’ve listened to your feedback and we’re making some important improvements to the game for the next Beta Weekend Event.

In truth, there comes a point of diminishing returns when it comes to communication, where attempting to keep up with the tantrums taking place in the echo chamber of forums like this one just isn't productive. We have a basic sense of where they are: 2012 is absolutely guaranteed, they're essentially to the open beta part of the beta testing process, and they're still hard at work on the game, making improvements based on the feedback from the sudden burst of large scale testing. Until they're set on a release date, there's not much more they can productively say.


#1414337 Speculative Release Date: Part Eight

Posted Pipples on 05 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

View PostObscure One, on 05 May 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

...the Asura and Silvari have yet to be put into action and play tested...

I seriously want to slap every person who says crap like this

1) ANet has their own bloody testers. They are perfectly capable of testing these races, and the starter zones, themselves
2) ANet has flat-out said that they aren't releasing these races because they don't want to spoil the 'twists' in the starter zones
3) Character models do not need to be beta tested. They all follow the same general physics rules and the only difference between them tends to be clipping with armor. This can also be done internally


#1410304 Speculative Release Date: Part Eight

Posted Winter3333 on 04 May 2012 - 07:45 PM

Come on, you junkies, don't give me that „technical polishing“ bull, you would play this game even if there is blue screen instead of distant environment and probably sell your Mom's TV just to get in another beta!  :P

The new drug is on the market, it is good and people are hooked, if you are drug dealer, you don't wait six months for next shipment, you supply it ASAP or junkies get their fix from something else.

This game is getting out in end of June, my guess 29th, Euro 2012 will be near the end and summer high will not be in full swing by then, if they don't get it out by then they are idiots, and no, I don't think they are, I think they know exactly what they are doing.