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#2123392 With an eye toward the end game, are toughness, vitality and healing the most...

Posted Jason Seven on 19 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

There is zero need for anybody to focus on anything but Power, Precision and +Critical Damage. More Vitality and Toughness just means that you need a larger health pool and more defense because you're getting hit too often. The same can be said about Healing Power. A skilledd player doesn't need any of these stats as they've learned when to dodge and how to position themselves. If you rely only on defense it means that you should learn how to play properly.


#2205231 An Introduction to S/D Builds and Play Styles [Guide]

Posted Phenn on 22 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

Before Beginning


There have been a few questions on the forum here concerning builds for the S/D weapon set. I have assembled a few of the more common builds, and described the play style that best fits with both the build and with S/D.

These are not the only builds that “work” with S/D, and neither are these builds limited to the S/D weapon set. Also, the builds are not designed with absolute min/maxing in mind. Rather, the following offer a good mix of utility, survivability, damage, and (most important in my book) fun. My hope is to provide a resource for anyone wanting to pick up S/D, and needs a place to start.

An Introduction to Sword and Dagger


(Before I begin, I would like to thank Rachmani for his guide that both introduced me to S/D and provided the foundation of most of my experimentation with the weapon set once hitting 80. I suggest anyone looking for a good break down of S/D read through it. Much of what’s included here comes more or less from him.)

Despite is effectiveness in PvP, S/D has often been considered one of the weaker melee-range weapon sets in PvE. Unlike sets with Pistol Whip and Backstab, S/D has no one skill that dishes out spike damage. Its stealth skill is a crowd control, and its evade, up until recently, had major pathing issues.

That being said, S/D remains a very flexible weapon set—able to tackle, control, and damage multiple enemies at once. S/D has strong, inherent survivability skills, and synergizes well with several different trait lines and builds. Perhaps most importantly, you maintain S/D's base damage even when traiting for a different play style due to the hard-hitting AA. Changing builds and play styles is entirely for pacing and survival purposes.

That being said, S/D builds break down into two general categories: Stealth-based and Mobility-based. Again, this isn’t to say stealth-based builds aren’t mobile, or that mobility-based builds don’t stealth. Rather, each has its particular emphasis for survival.

On one final note, every build will take 30 points in Critical Strikes (CS). S/D is a DPS melee set, and the CS tree is far too important to not take a full 30. Trait choices are pretty straight-forward. CS III (Side Strike), CS X (Critical Haste), and CS XI (Executioner) all synergize well with S/D, but CS VI and IX can be situationally helpful.

The following builds will differ, then, in how they spend the remaining 40 points.

Stealth Builds


The Classic (Leveling Build): 0/30/25/15/0

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The Hybrid: 0/30/20/20/0

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Thoughts on the Stealth Builds:

The S/D weapon set synergizes well with stealth-heavy builds. You may have noticed, however, that I did not include a build that takes 30 points in SA. There is little benefit in the Grandmaster-tier SA traits, and the five points provide much more when used in Acro. Both the Classic build and the Hybrid take advantage of blind-on-stealth for survival while maintaining decent mobility through the Acro line.

I recommend anyone picking up S/D for the first time try on of these two builds to get a feel for the pace of S/D combat. If you’re used to the speed of D/D, the sword can leave you feeling awkward and vulnerable. These builds will help.



Mobility Builds


(Updated) The Acrobat: 0/30/0/25/15

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(Updated) The Jumper: 10/30/0/0/30

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Thoughts on the Mobility Builds:

The Acrobat and the Jumper builds offer a different S/D play style than the stealth builds. Their strengths lie in evasion and dodging, and simply not being there to take damage. These builds are faster-paced and more user-sensitive than the stealth-builds, but have the potential for a higher payout in the damage-realm. The traits offer good flexibility across weapon sets, and synergize well with varying on-swap sets.

Both of the mobility builds are less forgiving than the stealth-based builds, but can provide a very fun alternative. I recommend that anyone who wants to try something new or different give them a test-run.



Conclusion


There you have it! Four of the more common and tested S/D builds. As I said above, they aren’t meant to be the end-all-be-all of S/D, or even the thief class in general. But they offer a good place to start for anyone looking into picking up S/D for the first time, or wanting to try something new.

I encourage the other thief-users out there to give these builds a go, and let me know how you tweak them for your own play style. If additional builds rise out of these, or if I’ve missed an obvious variant, I’ll happily include them as well. Feel free to ping me in game, too: Phenn.5167.

(And thanks to Loperdos for working through the correctness of the comments/advice/descriptions!)


#2203521 Lack of beefy weapons

Posted MisterB on 18 May 2013 - 10:14 PM

I really want to go to the Meatoberfest in Diessa Plateau now and see if there are any weapons made from beef for sale.


#2206000 Today's Patch Nerfed the Malchor's Leap Event Farms

Posted Lycrus on 25 May 2013 - 06:01 AM

Finally. This had no right to be in the game in the first place. Dunno why it took them so long..


#2205999 Today's Patch Nerfed the Malchor's Leap Event Farms

Posted Guardian of the Light on 25 May 2013 - 06:00 AM

You really didn't think this was gonna be nerfed eventually?


#2205993 Today's Patch Nerfed the Malchor's Leap Event Farms

Posted Warmaster Bacon on 25 May 2013 - 05:30 AM

Woooooo!!!!! Wish they did this sooner.


#2202992 Consortium is Nexon/NCSoft?

Posted ben911993 on 17 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

This idea came up several months ago with the release of Lost Shores. I can't remember all of the points made, but it was pretty convincing. Among the "evidence" behind the theory was the jumping puzzle named "Under New Management," a suspected reference to Nexon and Cristin Cox working their grubby claws into the game with purely profitable measures. As well, there was the suspicion of a symbolism between karka and the lionguard. It was theorized that the karka represented Nexon, coming into the Lionguard's (ANet's) territory, and tearing down the lion statue in LA, symbolic of Nexon stripping ANet of their former relatively non-greedy stance with a cash shop in GW1.

I'm normally not big on conspiracy theories, but I don't think it's any coincidence that in the interim between GW1 and GW2, Nexon purchased some 15% of the shares of NC Soft (or was it ANet themselves?), and ANet hired Cristin Cox to oversee the monetization of GW2, and now GW2 is a significantly more cash driven game than GW1. Cristin is already well known for having ruined Maplestory, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it were actually at NC Soft's "suggestion" that ANet hired her. Why would a company that had such a successful model with GW1, with a very limited cash shop, suddenly go overboard with it in GW2?

I have to agree with Duderino: it seems NC Soft forced GW2 out early in an attempt to rescue a sinking ship. And now they're taking the lifeboats with them. GW2 is only just in the past 2-3 months starting to head in the right direction with content and updates, but it's still far too gold/cash-centric than I care for.

I was in a thread in the videogame generals section of 4chan yesterday (no, /b/ does not comprise all of 4chan; there's more to it than that), and someone jokingly posted something along the lines of:
"Just $15 a month and you can be a premium GW2 member, receiving benefits such as:
--800 gems per month!
--early access to new content!
--free costumes/cosmetics from the Black Lion store!
--a monthly package of boosters and other consumables!"
And a few other benefits.

It's scary just how believable that post was. GW2 is being ruined by its cash driven stance. I much preferred the system of GW1 where I could just pay $7 and get the costume I want, no rng, no gambling, just me playing dress-up with my characters.


#2207366 Inspector Null: Unbeatable?

Posted Senatic on 28 May 2013 - 09:37 PM

kidding right, finished story and explorable in total of 15min. Was stupidly ♥♥♥♥ing easy and entirely pointless.


#2043730 So the good foke at ArenaNet sent me two copies of Digital Deluxe.. What shou...

Posted Bloodtau on 26 October 2012 - 06:18 AM

View PostPatty, on 25 October 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

I sent them a message telling them the situation. As much as I wanted to take advantage of this, I figured I didn't pay for the second copy so its practically stealing :P

Thanks for the responses!

Actually no, it's not. THEY sent out two copies, you didn't physically break into their office and take one.
Don't be such a nancy about it. You got two copies, take advantage of that. A-net enjoy screweing people over it seems, so vise-versa is fine.


#2044566 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Naut on 26 October 2012 - 02:51 PM

Okay, people clearly cannot discuss this in a proper way without insulting eachother or going stupidly offtopic so I'm just going to end it here.


#2044532 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Gli on 26 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

View PostNaevius, on 26 October 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

So far, no one has documented a case of being banned for 'nothing'. And in each case where Arena Net produced the reason for a ban, it was pretty obvious why it was justified.
You must have skipped some posts in this thread.


#2044485 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Gli on 26 October 2012 - 02:22 PM

View PostLinfang, on 26 October 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

You won't get banned for botting if you have not botted unless Anet made no effort to investigate it. Botters stick out like a sore thumb both from observation or simply checking a log of their movement and activity. Most bots run a scripted set of actions that start and stop at the very same point so it can be endlessly looped. A normal player could not do this in game even if they tried.

However my Asura did get a 72 hour ban for looking up Eir's skirt, which was justified and well worth it.
They do have issues causing mistakes: https://forum-en.gui...ith-game/423692


#2044477 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Linfang on 26 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

You won't get banned for botting if you have not botted unless Anet made no effort to investigate it. Botters stick out like a sore thumb both from observation or simply checking a log of their movement and activity. Most bots run a scripted set of actions that start and stop at the very same point so it can be endlessly looped. A normal player could not do this in game even if they tried.

However my Asura did get a 72 hour ban for looking up Eir's skirt, which was justified and well worth it.


#2044461 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Gli on 26 October 2012 - 02:14 PM

I thought it was there to create kittens. We can't have enough kittens.


#2044451 ArenaNet gives Dhuum free reign?

Posted Gli on 26 October 2012 - 02:10 PM

View Postdd790, on 26 October 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

Spotted a couple of dead players there on my minimap so I went over to res as I do and I found about 20-30 naked rangers all running back and forth farming a couple of veteran spawns.

I wonder how much of a difference it would make just having a GM visit these places once a day with Dhuum and setting hi on them all. As I am a ranger with a brown bear too I just ran like hell before I got grouped in with them.

I just report and delete the gold sellers messages, tempting as it is to tell them to *off I don't want to be seen to communicate with them in any way
Hah!

I'm on Gandara as well, and as I travelled from the southern entrance to the zone with my ranger and found myself running right through a naked bot cluster, my first thought was: "holy crap, I hope no one saw me!"