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Posted Lemming on 18 December 2014 - 09:10 PM
Go read /r/GameDeals' threads so that I don't have to put the effort into doing the same stuff.
$6 is an alright price for MGR. Buy Civ 5 Complete for $12.50 instead of vanilla for $7.50. DS2 has a DX11 rerelease next year, so consider waiting another year.
Posted raspberry jam on 17 December 2014 - 01:29 PM
I wonder what effect a game in the same genre as GW1, but released 2015 or so, would have on the market.
Posted El Duderino on 16 December 2014 - 05:45 PM
Personally I think that for us veteran players it's easy to forget that you can put a lot of hours (and money) into the game just casually playing through the campaign and the zones. A MMO today can attract a far broader crowd then a few years ago.
The fact that they have yet to have announced hitting 5M Western sales. Seems like it would be an important milestone that would be announced. The fact that revenue is stagnant. I mean, there certainly is more pointing to the fact that they aren't attracting new players rather than the opposite. But, that was never my point. You were the one that was using ANet attracting new players as a point - therefore, it is on you to prove that point or concede that you can't use it as support for your argument.
I still don't think you understand my point. Giving people incentives just to LOG IN to a game is a completely desperate attempt at, well, getting people to log into a game. If the game was good enough, you wouldn't have to dangle a carrot in front of the customer simply to get them to engage with it, regardless of actually needing to play the game - which is the whole point of a game's existence.
I feel this really may be going over your head, because you think I am complaining. I'm not. I don't really care. I just think it is an incredibly sad state of affairs for GW2 if they have to give people rewards simply to log in. In fact, you can add this back to my first point as another reason why it seems the game isn't gaining new players and is stagnant.
Posted El Duderino on 16 December 2014 - 01:20 PM
How are they gaining new players if they aren't doing anything different? What evidence do you have that they are actually gaining new players enough to make up for attrition of old players?
You were the one that brought up the fact that ANet only makes $3.88 a player and that is the reason why they can't/won't make better content. Seems to me that a company that can't innovate because they aren't making enough money... isn't doing that well. Also, ANet has not only said that they will never make an expansion, they also haven't done so in 2 years. Thinking that they will at some point is just wishful and naive thinking.
I think you missed the point of my post completely. I'll try and make it more clear. A Skinner Box != a game. Hence, making your game more like a Skinner Box (E.g. giving people rewards for simply logging in and not actually playing the game) is rather boring, and pointless, game design. In fact, it can't even really be called game design, because it has nothing to do with actually playing or implementing anything to do with a game.
But, I suppose that not everyone expects much out of MMO's and GW2; whereas there are some of us that actually expect game designers to make objectively good game design choices. Such is life.
Posted raspberry jam on 16 December 2014 - 09:32 AM
All hail S:t B.F.
Posted El Duderino on 16 December 2014 - 04:14 AM
Seems to me if people like the game, they don't need to be incentivized just to log in.
Posted raspberry jam on 15 December 2014 - 11:17 AM
tl;dr: is reward for opening Notepad a good idea? y/n
Posted raspberry jam on 12 December 2014 - 01:22 PM
Posted El Duderino on 11 December 2014 - 03:20 PM
Not for nothing, but what you are describing, from a company perspective, is really a case of diminishing returns. If a company is only going to cater to the people that spend the most, without trying to innovate or attract other players, there is still going to be attrition in those numbers which will lead to less and less sales over time.
Remember, it's not the consumers job to fund a company's innovations. Most products come to market severely underfunded from the public and rely on debt and investments in order to bring that product to a point where it turns a profit. Therefore, it is never problematic for a consumer to demand from a company what they want or expect. It is up to that company to decide how they want to handle that information and how they want to create wealth through new products and innovation.
If their sales per customer is as sad as you say they are, then it seems to me that they are doing a poor job of finding ways to bring in and keep new customers and that their overall business plan and execution is rather lousy. I don't think what you are saying makes a very good case for customers not being allowed to tell a company what they will pay for - but a much better case for a company refusing to innovate and create sales where there were none before.
Also, the idea that a game can't make money through expansions or new content is utterly ridiculous. There are plenty of game companies out there that don't have micro transactions and come out with expansions or new iterations of themselves every 12-24 months - and they are making money hand over fist.
Posted El Duderino on 10 December 2014 - 07:46 PM
Give us new content, give us something we'll enjoy logging in for. Instead, we get a reward for logging in!?
Not just that, but I also have to wonder what kind of a player this will appeal to? If they are trying to appeal to the people that require a reward for simply logging in, what kind of future content can we expect? Will these players even want content that requires them to overcome challenges to gain the reward?
I think this is the underlying problem with the MMO genre, which is a byproduct of the themepark style MMO. Fun has largely stopped being the main influencer in MMOs and has been replaced by rewards. This is seen over and over again with the discussions we have about MMOs, their development and how developers use rewards to drive log ins and interactions.
I suppose that it really boils down to just another dopamine injections from the brain. Whether it is rewards, winning a PvP battle, completing a story: it is all just dopamine hits to the brain that make people coming back for more like Pavlov's dogs. Which makes me wonder if there is something that separates these things as being more important or better than the other in any objective way. Perhaps, it is the way in which you achieve the dopamine bump that should matter. So, for simple daily rewards, you basically are forced to log in and grind a bit, with a PvP match - you actually have to deftly find a way to win said match. If that is the case - I go back to my original statement then - sounds like a bore.
Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness rant...
Posted El Duderino on 10 December 2014 - 06:53 PM
Posted Soki on 10 December 2014 - 06:41 PM
Is this what ANet has? Is the Dev team really that small now?
What a sad sequal to GW.
Posted raspberry jam on 17 November 2014 - 11:27 AM
If you have 7 gems leftover from a purchase, you can convert X amount of gold into 3 gems and then convert the 10 gems into gold. This idea of "salami slicing" in GW2 is a myth.
Since they re-introduced the custom conversion rate, not only can you easily transfer any quantity of gems into gold, but specifying how many gems you want is far easier than it used to be. Rather than punching in a set amount of gold and seeing how much you get back, you just say how many gems you want. I actually find this system a lot more convenient; I just hated that it didn't have the custom conversion rate at first.
This is a non-issue.
Posted raspberry jam on 18 November 2014 - 09:08 AM
Posted Shayne Hawke on 13 November 2014 - 01:37 AM
Player skill as a measure of distributing/earning rewards is an area left mostly untapped by ANet in GW2, being done only in the cases of titles for being at high rungs of the PvP ladder during a season long ago. Rewards for the WvW seasons hardly fall into this category since only minimal participation was necessary to get rewarded from that. Everything else is a matter of throwing money at it to buy it or spin slots or logging in enough times over periods of days/weeks/months.