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Desild, on 05 May 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

I'm even afraid to ask but I don't spend a lot of a time on forums or websites to know exactly what are the complaints that make GW2 apparently so bad. Maybe I'm just one of the naive people.

What I don't get is why people get so emotional about a game. By your response I assume you've played WOW, I've also played it and still do from time to time but I'm pretty much done with it, however I know why I don't play like I used to, because I got bored, I've done almost everything that is to do and moved on. Now I'm not bitter about it because I think WOW is still a fantastic game but I've changed and it's like been there done that, GW2 looks much more exciting with better combat, there's no gear advantage in PVP, it's all about the experience and it's fun to play, you can even say it's casual but that's where I am nowadays.

I like to login do some PVP, dailies, experience the latest content, maybe do a dungeon or two maybe some WvW and that's it maybe I'm missing something that breaks the game but I haven't found it yet.

NerfHerder, on 05 May 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

Agreed.

El Duderino, on 05 May 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Absolutely not, you should speak, but do so with rational logic and common sense to be taken serious. Just saying that the "numbers", wherever these are, clearly show that players are stop playing is ridiculous, in my opinion anyway.

How does the leaderboards that, and correct if I'm wrong on this one, don't show all players, and the number of achievement points show how many players are playing? There are so many factors like frequency of playing and hours put into the game and if doing activities or just chating in gchat that to claim that is crazy to me.

Desild, on 05 May 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

They do mean something. It means how many hours you've put into the game and how efficiently you've done so. Pure and simple. Trying to see anything other than that is a desperate attempt at finding validation for your own disillusion with the game.

Desild, on 05 May 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

1) Sub-par compared to what? An expansion? A content patch? A single-player game? I agree though that it took a long time to present the whole thing.

2) Doubtful, different priorities maybe, on what should be fixed or worked on first.

3) Your opinion not the same opinion of every one of those 3 million obviously.

4) First they need to make the cash shop appealing and be their focus as well if the game is to survive, I'm ok with this if it's not P2W, which it isn't, it's all cosmetic or utility. As for the content, the game doesn't even have a year and we saw new content every month apart from the last 4 months where content has been stretched out. I didn't play GW1 so I don't know how it was.

5) You know what? I'm having a lot fun playing Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon, apparently there are other games out there. Also it seems like you're comparing an mmo to a single-player/co-op, not the same thing. I enjoyed far more Kotor story than I did any of the mmo's story apart from swtor, despite of its flaws that game has some great story.




It's becoming more obvious to me that the ones dissatisfied with GW2 are GW1 players which makes sense. Two different games/genre which causes disappointment with the fact that the supposed sequel is radically different than the predecessor and the emotional attachment to the latter that makes them bitter and resentful of that fact. I can emphatise with that though but it's two different games and GW2 is also very different from typical MMO's which in return makes even more people also resentful that is not more like WOW.

El Duderino, on 05 May 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

But that's my point, why do you have to prove to others who enjoy the game that you think that they're wrong? You're not just saying I don't like it or I'm disappointed with the game because of A or B, you're going to great lenghts to try and prove that you're not in a minority and that the ones enjoying playing are some sort of blind fanboys that need to be converted to your truth.

Can you just accept that:


1) There's no way to tell if the majority of people who bought GW2 are still playing or if not will still return or even that have stopped playing for other reasons other than "the game sucks".


2) There are a lot of people who like and enjoy playing GW2 no matter what your perception is or how many others have stated the opposite.


3) The game is not for everyone, it's ok if don't like it, that is your opinion. You're free to post your opinion but trying to prove it as fact using none and making a huge effort to make the point that X game is a failure is just sad.


4) The game isn't bad, it's just not for you, time to move on.

El Duderino, on 05 May 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

Why are you so hang up on achievement points? And why do you care so much if the majority, the minority or whatever number of players is still playing?

About achievement points: You can earn them just by playing, however someone playing for 5hrs will probably earn more achievement points than someone who played for 1h yes?

Different people play for different amounts of time, will do different things and take small, long or no breaks at all from the game. All these factors and more will determine someones achievement points.

I mean it's not hard to understand this right? Achievement points tells nothing about how many people are playing or have stop playing. It's true that many have stop playing, I don't think anyone would deny that, but that's the case with every game.

Seriously why the obsession with the number of players or the level of success of GW2?

El Duderino, on 04 May 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

I'm curious, and how exactly do you know that the majority of players don't like the game? What "numbers" show that?

Also, there have been periods that I haven't played, sometimes weeks and I think one time a month, and in the future I can possibly go without playing for months and even farther I may stop altogether because nothing lasts forever, yet I like the game, it has its flaws obvious but no game is perfect.