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VanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

I was just asking for you to make sense out of your post... but if you can't reply and ragequit discussions with /ignore and whatever the first moment you can't explain yourself, goodbye and good riddance, I guess. Theorycrafting is taking an idea an explaining it, not just "it will happen because x", if you don't build anything around it, it won't be theorycrafting.

VanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

You don't get my message, at all. I'll repeat it in list-form:

*Tengu don't make sense in neither Maguuma Wastes nor Depths of Tyria, which would invalidate their presence against Primordus if we consider those two are his main territories. You can't introduce a bird-race in those lands, the same way you can't introduce an aquatic race in a desert land. They don't fit, and the feel disconnected. It's bad design.

*Destroyers attacking Dominion of Winds is eventual and irrelevant. It's just a comment, a footnote, and you already see part of that on southern Kessex Hills. It's small, and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. You would need a huge-scale invasion or a war to give any relevancy to it, and we don't have any of that (not like it would make sense for it to be focused on a single small location of people not allied with the Pact). "Destroyers attacking Dominion of Winds" is a small irrelevant group of weak destroyers bothering the tengu guards. Nothing big enough to make them connected to Primordus.

It's theorycrafting, yes, but I think it doesn't make sense because tengu don't fit the Primordus setting aesthetically, and because taking a footnote about some destroyers attacking them as the sole reason to make them go against Primordus isn't solid enough.

VanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Destroyers are a temporal and situational enemy. Using "destroyers are attacking them" as an argument doesn't make too much sense. It's a starting zone problem and plot, which doesn't need to evolve anywhere else, just like icebrood, Ascalonian ghosts, Flame Legion, Inquest, etc. That appear in the starting zones and once you go beyond level 30 you don't see them again, or you take some time to see them again.

Also, the themes don't match. Tengu don't fit the underground theme, and you need to give space to the new race. You need to have established tengu on the new zones, and there aren't tengu on neither Maguuma Wastes nor Depths of Tyria.

They should make a "finder" for whatever you want, using the existing "looking for group" stance.

Just improve it with "what you're looking for" and then show you players who match, so you can group with them. Or simply add LFG-specific chat channels that cover various servers.

But something needs to be done.

Seems Southsun Cove screwed up my tengu starting zones plans. Seriously, I didn't imagine they would place the zone there, I thought it would be souther. As it is now, I feel it wastes potential (No connecting to Caledon Forest and Sparkfly Swamp). Even more, it doesn't make too much sense to have an "unexplored" island be on the middle of the Sea of Sorrows (a big island, by the way). The terrain contrast doesn't match the surrounding too well, too.

So maybe I'll pull a "relocation card", leave it ambiguous or give another alternative, but I like my first iteration so I'll still work on it, no matter it may contradict established material .

VanderBeltLegacy, on 17 November 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Mind elaborating? I don't understand you.