Hubris along with a healthy disdain for the people who buy their company's product.
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Posted Mahaedros on 04 March 2013 - 05:20 AM
Hubris along with a healthy disdain for the people who buy their company's product.
Posted kKagari on 04 March 2013 - 05:17 AM
Posted Mahaedros on 04 March 2013 - 05:10 AM
Head of Global Community
Critickitten: You mention in your first paragraph that this is your opinion. I changed the thread title to reflect that (which you could have done in the first place yourself). The original thread title was sensationalist and broad to attract more views. I will change the title back to reflect that it is a personal opinion. If you change it once again, this thread will be locked and trashed.
This is from a thread over at GW2 official forums: https://forum-en.gui...w-in-my-opinion
Why is this employee of ArenaNet lecturing a paying customer in a public forum? "The original thread title was sensationalist and broad to attract more views. I will change the title back to reflect that it is a personal opinion. If you change it once again, this thread will be locked and trashed."
It goes beyond deplorable customer relations and definitely never should have been posted on an official public forum.
I don't care what the paying customer said, this Anet employee was out of line. If you want to make a case that this message should have been given to the poster in a private PM I might entertain that discussion... but never speak in this manner to paying customers in a public as Martin Kerstein has done in this thread.
This is basic customer relations 101. No excuse for what he did at all.
Players are paying customers. Companies that make games need to be respectful in their communication with their paying customers. ArenaNet and it's disrespectful attitude towards their paying customers is typical of how gaming companies have behaved recently.
Don't put up with it- ever. Don't settle for it- ever...especially just because you are a fan of the game.
And please don't think that I only feel this way about ArenaNet. It's a trend that we should not have to endure.
How many copies of Guild Wars 2 have been sold, Martin Kerstein Head of Global Community, and how many of those players have quit because your company is below average in their ability to communicate with their customers in a profesional manor?
Posted Entombed on 01 March 2013 - 05:39 PM
(This was originally designed for the official forum, although due to length I am posting elsewhere and I hope to have an abbreviated form on the official site soon. I have taken careful consideration to keep this post from being incendiary or rude to the community, the players, and of course, the ArenaNet staff. Any names cited, were for sole purpose of attributing ownership to used quotes and not meant to insult, or be otherwise disresectful to anyone. I hope you agree, that I have followed the Code of Conduct to the best of my ability, to keep this thread from being deleted and to inspire useful discussions by all parties involved.)
Let’s start with something small. It’s the moment to moment details that reveal the work ethic of a company and its concern for its players. For those who don’t know Final Rest was a staff discovered in the game files that is visually unique and appealing to many. However, for months the staff could not be found in-game. Many player’s attempted to go to the forums, ask questions in interviews/AMAs, and even message employee’s in-game to discover it’s location or to show ArenaNet that it was indeed bugged.
“I can’t give away any spoilers, but I can confirm that I’ve looked at the loot tables, and it is in the game. It’s a very rare reward from defeating a boss in the open world.”
"Just a quick note—I said the odds of it dropping was closer to .005 than the 1 in a million or so that was tossed out. Those aren’t the exact odds, but if my math is correct, 10 players running the event every day might expect one staff to drop after about 7 months. (And we haven’t been out that long.)"
-All from Jeffery Vaughn
-There are easily more than 10 (albeit likely different) people who participate in the event daily with various amounts of magic find.
-We were told it was not a bug, but a rare spawn that would take 10 players 7 months to see a single staff drop.
-In six months post-launch, we have not seen a single Final Rest.
-March patch = boom hundreds of Final Rests.
Logical Conclusion: When you said you “boosted” the drop rate in a recent quote, you really meant included it in the drop table bug free, and decreased it’s rarity several logs.
Question in a Recent Interview: Where's Final Rest?
Colin: Someday you will all discover it and everybody will be really excited.
How does a bug fix on a staff dropping from an event that many people do daily, make us all “really excited”?
As easily surmised, it’s not only easy, but probable a company will be make poorly worded quotes without malicious intent.
Let’s move to the now infamous ascended gear debate, albeit briefly. There are many arguments for either side that has been said and heard hundreds, if not thousands of times. I intend to avoid it, and expose direct quotes which are plainly “wrong.”
Ascended Gear Quotes:
“We absolutely design everything we do with minimal grind and will continue with this principal moving forward.”
What is your/ANet’s definition of grind?
Repetitive game play that is not fun. –Chris Whiteside
These quotes were taken from a Reddit AMA in November of last year. At the time Ascended gear could only be achieved through Fractals, a mistake that was later admitted to by the company. We have since moved to several, yet still unachievable in major features of the game like WvW, options of achieving them. You can do dailies for approximately a month for each ascended piece of gear. You can farm guild missions and commendations, and achieve them through a combination of gold and commendations, or 40 laurels and 50 ectoplasms. Or you can simply gain some from Fractals, or a combination of materials (gained from Fractals) and craft your own. The problem is that these are largely out of reach by a majority of the playerbase without investment of significant “grinding.” Dailies are often the definition of “do these things every day” and achieve a small reward. ArenaNet has now provided a diversity of things that we can do to achieve a daily, which has only missed the point. If you kill 20 rabbits one day, and then are asked to kill 20 underwater creatures the next, that doesn’t suddenly change the nature of the daily. It’s intended to be a short repetitive activity that is completed daily or nearly daily to artificially create a form of progression for an item. It’s still repetitive…and as one of the few opinions in this thread, is not fun. I have yet to find myself, friends, guildmates, or anyone exclaim “I’m excited to do my daily today!”
Let’s move to the current January/February Release window and talk about a quote that has been thrown around quite a bit by the community, and examine the recent releases of content.
January/February Release Quote:
"But January and February are actually our biggest updates to date. They’re even bigger than all the stuff we did in October, November and December. And I think that when people see how much stuff they’re gonna get for no monthly fee in January and February, they’re probably going to be blown away. These two months combined are basically an expansion’s worth of content for free."
-The WvW patch that was slated for January, was pushed back to February, and then moved back to March was originally intended in the “expansion worth of content” Colin was referring to at the time.
-There are usually around 5 major features in each patch, which typically include, for lack of a better word, content.
-2 of the 5 for February’s patch were “Choosing Your Own Daily Achievements” and Previewing on the Trading Post.
-The only additional content increase in February were a couple of cash shop items, a new sPvP map, and essentially the addition of portals and non-unique enemies in the Living Story.
-January included guesting that was intended to be included at launch, an improved achievement system, and bug fixes to WvW.
-The major points of a patch should not include bug-fixes and revamps of existing, broken content.
Logical Conclusion: What we have seen is nothing even resembling an expansion worth of content. (Even if you want to include March’s content, which admittedly has yet to be fully revealed, it would not resemble an expansion.)
Let’s move to WvW, arguably one of ArenaNet’s most popular features. In six months of release, the only thing added to WvW were bug fixes. Instead of attempting to stop hacks and exploits by single players, ArenaNet chose to simply remove the orb system. Before everything was incredibly dynamic, due to mismanagement in realm populations (free realm transfers for roughly five months again due to guesting), and no, we see the opposite side of that coin, it’s static to the point of decay. Realm ranks are hardly changing, and each week the story seems to remain the same. The same realms place 1st, 2nd, or 3rd each week, rarely changing tiers. No forms of progression or reward have been added in six months, and we are holding on the promise that the WvW patch will come out next month. Even with the promise of new content, it’s the length of time that has passed that is discouraging for many of us.
We have seen dungeon revamp after dungeon revamp, waiting for you to finally get it right. We have watched you include temporary content again and again, without adding to the core of the game. We have been waiting for ArenaNet to wake up and improve on their original design.
Let’s examine material that has yet to be fully made, that holds the potential of promise, and a return to original design principles:
The Living Story
We have seen two installments of the story, with the promise of much more exciting material to come in March.
-The first installment included random NPCs walking towards two major cities in two zones that “needed” aid.
-It included collecting mementos, fixing signs, and curing the cripple condition off them, with less than 5 unique dynamic events and a single title to come with it.
-The second installment now includes two main objectives, fighting portal-spawning enemies, and providing refugees with lost items.
Logical Conclusion: There are not a lot of content or interesting things to do in-game involving the living story.
An addition of twenty dynamic events would arguably have more content than these last two installments of the living story. There is nothing that makes it special, unique, rewarding or even interesting to the average player. And once again, we are relying on a promise by Angel McCoy, a chief architect along with Ree Soesbee and Jeff Grubb that created the lackluster personal story. Even worse, it appears as though ArenaNet is making the same mistakes.
“In order to make this easier on ourselves, and on you, we’ll be introducing a set of characters specific to the Living Story, at the end of March. Hint: one’s a norn, and one’s a charr.”
-In both the Lost Isles Patch and the Halloween patch,the ArenaNet team was largely criticized for a lackluster, initial phase of events because there weren’t many things a player could do.
-The Personal Story was largely criticized for revolving around a NPC rather than the player, making the player feel less than heroic.
-The Living Story appears to have the same flaws as both the previous patches and Personal Story.
ArenaNet is not learning from past mistakes.
I could use this remaining time to talk about the blatant lack of additional skins to the game. The large majority of skins released have been temporary releases. I could elaborate more on the failures of the Personal Story, and the complete reluctance by ArenaNet to address or fix it. I could address the growing concern by sPvP players that ArenaNet is not doing enough for the e-sport community. However, I think by now you understand my point. I am not satisfied with the games progress post-launch, nor do I find it acceptable for ArenaNet to continue to make false claims nor learn from previous self-admitted mistakes.
In conclusion, this post is meant to raise public awareness of ArenaNet’s past remarks and errors, and enact change to the game to make it better. ArenaNet, you can do better.
Sanctum of Rall
Posted Sans on 27 January 2013 - 09:28 PM
One where maps aren't completely empty?
That way DE's are always active and full of people participating.
Can a mod make a 2 polls ???
one for US servers and one for EU servers so we can vote on it.
Posted cyclopsje on 19 January 2013 - 06:44 PM
Posted Baron von Scrufflebutt on 13 January 2013 - 07:43 PM
I've put more hours into GW2 than I put into Orcs Must Die!, Orcs Must Die! 2, Diablo 3, Portal and Portal 2 COMBINED, yet I love those each of those games more than I'll ever be able to love GW2.
Contrary to what the MMO-folks think, a game having an end IS a good thing. And GW2 would have been SO much better if it simply came to an end.
Posted Eon Lilu on 13 January 2013 - 06:32 PM
- Trading Post - non-refundable listing fees
I was lucky enough to get a pre-cursor (Storm). Being a casual player I knew that I'd never grind enough to craft the legendary so I listed it on the TP, for less than the only other listing. The listing fee was 3g+, half of all of my savings. Within a week five more Storms have been listed, all for less than mine, and with the looming increased drops of pre-cursors I'll probably not be able to sell this unless I re-list it. See next point.
- Trading Post - lowering the price of an item requires re-listing and paying another listing fee
This is ridiculous and the game's most blatant mechanic designed to whittle away our bank accounts that I've seen. If we list an item that drops in price after listing we should be able to lower the price without re-listing and paying new listing fees. At that point we've already paid a higher listing fee than that of a lower priced item; no need to double-dip into our bank accounts Anet.
- Inflation - Anet has zero incentive to curb the gold to gem exchange rate
The higher the the gold to gem exchange rate gets, the more likely Anet is to have players buy gems with real-world money. I keep picturing their economist kicking back, watching this exchange rate, and saying "Go baby go!" Many common items are becoming too expensive to buy with gold for the casual player. See next point.
- Fine transmutation stones - gem store exclusive
I've run out of fine transmutation stones for my main character, let alone having any available for alts that I'd want to level. To buy 10 fine transmutation stones for 360 gems at a gold to gem exchange rate of 1g 64s 23c per 100 gems it's going to cost you 5g+. I wish I had that much left in my bank account, but I listed a pre-cursor in the Trading Post that isn't selling.
- Bugs - more than ever
Since launch the number of bugs that I've run into has increased. This is the only game I've seen this happen in. Stuck animations, loud repeating sounds that ignore my volume settings and sound like a kid with no rhythm playing tablas, fractals disconnects, attacking an enemy being randomly stopped, targeting the closest enemy usually targets an enemy further away, etc. GW1 was super solid in comparison, even at launch, and never felt this shaky.
- Fractals - all your players are belong to us
So many pve zones are dead at this point, and this is on a full Jade Quarry server. They may as well be instances like in GW1. The Fractals’ gear grind and payout has moved such a large portion of the player base into them that it's hard to complete dynamic event chains or find a group for a story dungeon run. See next point.
- Grouping - use gw2lfg.com
Why are we forced to use an external website to find groups this many months into launch? Anet's dev resources seem stretched thin so they probably breathed a sigh of relief when gw2lfg.com sprang up, but this should be in the game. No excuses.
- Fractals - ascended items
The devs keep weighing in on this topic, trying to convince us that they haven't gone back on any pre-launch promises about grind and hours of play required to get the best gear and remain competitive. It isn't working. A casual player getting infused ascended gear is going to take a big time commitment and can only be done in Fractals. Get ready to play the same content over and over again!
- Playing with casual gamers - good luck
My friend is an even more casual gamer than I am. We've played enough games together that I know he probably won't get a character to level 80. So forget about WvW, most dungeons, and Fractals. He's not interested in spvp so that's also out. This makes it hard to recommend GW2 to him and for us to play together.
All-in-all Guild War$ 2 feels like a free-to-play game, except that I bought it. And now we're supposed to buy gems with real-world money so we can afford to re-list items in the Trading Post and buy fine transmutation stones to keep a few skins that we like? Nope. I'm done.
This is what alot of others are starting to see and you didn't even mention alot more than is wrong at the moment with GW2, it's a shame. Your right though, Anet and the dev's are obviously not calling the shots anymore. Does feel like a ftp game and management / sales teams seem to have gutted it to pieces and taking it into a direction that noone wants to see it go.
Posted Bloodtau on 13 January 2013 - 10:46 PM
By this I mean pressing F to interact with something or pick up and item, only to have your character get stuck in a run cycle which you cannot get out of...
Killed me a few times now has this
Posted Sword Hammer Axe on 17 January 2013 - 11:22 PM
Well, I guess everyone's entitled to an opinion of course, and I do agree with some of it... but this post is so full of spite it's not even funny. When people complain over something they usually do it with style, even if they seem so angry that you might fear they'll blow up, but this post is so sarcastic it feels almost malevolent.
Posted ObscureThreat on 19 January 2013 - 02:32 PM
Posted Perm Shadow Form on 19 January 2013 - 02:03 PM
Posted Lordkrall on 19 January 2013 - 01:48 PM
Give me a single NPC trader that sells EVERYTHING in the game in unlimited quantities and you basically have my dream economy.
You mean having no economy at all is your dream economy?
Oh well, to each his own I suppose.
Posted Impmon on 07 January 2013 - 01:03 PM
Theres a guild on SOR who uses this probably 100% of the time. The few times they're met in the open field & they cannot portal bomb invis everyone they end up getting rolled.
I suspect once they do fix culling alot of these so called hardcore wvw guilds will up and vanish like a fart in the wind because they'll ACTUALLY have to fight people.
Posted Soulstitchmmo on 27 December 2012 - 08:57 PM
I’m not gonna lie, the past couple days, I have 0 reason to log into WvW. All my pvp needs are being met in Planetside 2. It’s everything that WvW should have been, and only magnifies the glaring issues with WvW.
IMO: Arenanet needs to remove most of the cost from WvW. Charge Karma for siege, no repairs, charge supply for upgrades, and bring the fun back into WvW or over time Arenanet will lose most serious WvW’ers to Planetside2.
On top of that, they sacrificed gameplay for art. The engine they used was a poor choice for the game. Clipping should never happen. Ever. I can participate in a massive ground troop, ground vehicle, and air vehicle assault on an objective, on high settings, with NO problems in Ps2. Anet failed at gamemaking with their choice of engine.
6 hours to get a character from 1-80 and fully geared is poor design, on top of the constant cost of WvW. Anet doesn’t have the resources or the will to dedicate to WvW so I’m not going to waste any more of my time on a game that went for looks and grind over gameplay.