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#2137169 Social Failure?

Posted Humanmind on 07 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

All my guild (full of players playing together for long time) stop playing the game because fail of the endgame so it's a social failure no fun..

Fractals: Boring,Boring
Legendary weapons: I m not a bot sorry Anet it's not fun.
WvW:Lag,clipping,free servers tranfert kill that mode
SPvP:No interest.

Guildies stop playing,survivors goes to another guild and so kill the first guild........(multi guild bad idea players easy leave)

I expect a huge revision of the end game of GW2

#2112502 Where has everyone gone?

Posted Targren on 09 December 2012 - 03:15 AM

View PostSephirox507, on 25 November 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

I think people quitting after three months instead of staying and giving feedback that can actually help GW2 devs is the problem with MMO Community this days.

What's the point? No matter what feedback you give, there are always, always, always going to be the cheerleading squad who responds to that sort of feedback with namecalling, insults, and assurances that you're wrong and everything is fine. And looking at the official forums where such feedback would make sense, it's clear to see how the moderation staff lean. Feedback threads are merged, destroying any sense of context, and  bans and suspensions are handed out a little too freely while criticism posts are deleted as "not contributing to threads" while supportive "me toos" are ignored.

Community interaction is one of the many places ANet is dropping the ball.

#2073122 GW2 longevity?

Posted Gervase on 11 November 2012 - 10:20 PM

Personally, I don't think so. My guild used to have 210 members, usually logging each day at different times of the day, now we are about 4 left, out of those 4 only one logs daily the rest, rarely. Problem is, this game got no real end game, no real mid game, hell it barely feels like a game at all. SWTOR failed cause they created a single player game and tried to sell it as a MMO, AION Failed cause it was a standard Korean mmo, same as Tera. If you are a person who plays PvE every once in a while and take months to get 10 levels, then maybe the game might long live for you, but even then areas are so death you can't really enjoy it fully if at all. Many times a boss will be in the area you need to work on for your heart quest and no one will come to assist you, since there is no one besides bots around.

Spvp was really fun at the start, but same maps = same strategy and once a mesmer appears, you go hide, a guardian appear you ignore him, so on it goes. WvW was destroyed when they allowed people to move around servers freely, specially since almost everyone in there is a pve n00b looking for free exp and karma. These days I can go 9 v 1 and easily kill at least 7 of them, hell if there wasn't a down state I could take all of them out no problem, that's how bad the population playing it is.

Main problem lies within reaching 80, doing so is a joke, if you craft your own gear you be 80 in about 2 days max, unless you are super casual like some of my friends who reached 80 in about a week. Quest repeat themselves way too much, kill sons of svarmir, kill fire legion...events are always escort this person...protect them while they do X thing, yeah nothing fancy or interesting, in fact after leaving the starting areas you are better off ignoring the dynamic events.

Now you are 80...so what? If you have a crafting discipline in a day or 2 you can get fully geared, with new karma rewards from dailies, you can get a full set of temple gear no problem, just craft/buy yourself a weapon and you done, then what? Nothing, dungeons aren't challenging, in fact they feel more like a test of patience than a skill test, is like saying in other games you need to train yourself to do good and feel rewarded after, here you just stare at the game trying to not blink until the game forces you to, then they reward you with a few coins and that's it.  

The game is build around skins, yet all the skins look horrible, I bought myself a citadel of flames axe, it looked like if a 5 years old kid painted some crayola lines in a paper gave it to his dad and make him so proud he turned it into a ingame skin. Crafted weapons...my god...give me my lvl 1 sword any day, cause those look even worse. Want a decent skin from karma recipe vendors or mystic forge...? Prepare to grind for days upon days upon days, this would mean longevity but nop they aren't worth it.

Cultural armor is another goal, bad stats, insane prices, don't even look all that good.

World bosses....? You can solo those, their AI is so simple you can stand there hitting them and kill em on your own, except the claw of Jormag, who is a test of patience...Rewards for killing them? Lol yeah sure.

This leads to the final solution, you get some magic find gear, go around killing crap in orr and try to gamble for a pre legendary...sounds like Diablo 3 to me....and god Diablo 3 was a huge failure.

The story...there seems to be no lore at all, well there is but is so simple and linear you really don't feel like part of it after you leave your starting zone.

Exploring the world? Finished in 2 days...got 2 gift of exploration which i destroyed since they only occupied my inventory space.

Everything needs money and everything is a money sink. Sounds like those old days where the king would squeeze every penny from the peasants in taxes...way points price makes you not even want to travel lol.

People might say you paid only 60 bucks for this you don't have the right to ask for more content cause you aren't paying a subscription. Well allow me to tell you, you are wrong. Many people paid tons in gems to get stuff they thought would help them in the future, many many games out there cost 60$ specially console ones, all of them gives hours upon hours of fun, FPS, Rock star games like GTA series. red dead redemption so on. People who paid these 60$ are your clients, if they aren't happy with your content they will leave, then when you release your expansions, they will not buy, you release your new town skins, nop not here, not gonna buy either.

With those 60 bucks, I could have bought the new rift expansion, or WoWs, or 4 months of a game subscription or many condoms or food, or many months of porn sites subscriptions. Is not the amount you paid for it, is the fact that you decided to invest into Arena Net's product, if they fail to deliver well, next time they come around with something way better, guess wut? We aren't buying.

#1968647 Any old MMO tanks kinda missing that feeling.

Posted Red_Falcon on 25 September 2012 - 09:45 PM

Pull. Rotation. Taunt. Hm. K. Uh, trash slipped to dps, taunt… K.
Low health.. plz healz. ty. Dps dead, healer move plz. Hm.
Pull. Rotation. Taunt. Uh? Ah. Hm. K.

Current days
Blinding leap!
AoE, jump away
Foes on friend, pull them to me!
Incoming spike, mass Aegis
Control, stand your ground!
Friend in danger, knock foe away from him!
VoJ blind and might to friends
Many foes, trap them into circle!
Low health, self heal!
Grab banner give buffs
Fire field, leap into fire shield
Knocked back, leap back in!
Mass cripple
Projectile on friends, cover them with aimed wall
Friend downed and focused, Sanctuary and safe res
Conditions on friends while ressing, turn them into boons!
Buy time, signet is coming back up,kittendowned!
Downed AoE knockback, buy time for your team
Thief uses blinding field to res me
Rally, roll to friends to heal on roll!
Signet again, back into battle
“Ele focus here” bind-pull everything to key point
Whirling + mass burn + mass blind + mass might!
Focused, renewed justice
Condition AoE, counter with cleasing
Grab conjured weapon, spread destruction
Fight succeeded!

Nope, I'm TOTALLY NOT missing that feeling.

#1884675 Guardian - Zealot Spike Guide for sPvP and tournaments!

Posted coldkeg on 05 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

View PostAodan, on 03 September 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

1. Ogre is stupid good, you should be using at least 4 then 2 divinity if your going a highly offensive build. The marginal crit dmg/chance loss is a great trade for a pet that will bump your dps up significantly.

This is a joke right? What serious PvPer advocates gearing for RNG over static gains? Furthermore, it's laughable that you would be so condescending in this thread considering your so-called esports team is probably seeking corporate sponsorship. Guess what, corporations don't fund teams that shit on the public they're trying to market to.

As one of the first people to ever introduce serious corporate cash into the world of professional video gaming, let me tell you, your attitude is a real disservice to the world of e-sports. Get off your high horse, amateur.

#1952085 I'm sorry if you got the wrong impression, but we love this game.

Posted Milennin on 20 September 2012 - 03:12 PM

I love the game, but due to forums being overloaded with negativity from the vocal minority I don't feel like visiting as much anymore.

#1951855 I'm sorry if you got the wrong impression, but we love this game.

Posted Proseidon1 on 20 September 2012 - 02:19 PM

I hear a lot of whining on the forums. Okay, fair enough, I expect that. However, these people that have problems with the game towards the point that they regret their purchase are beginning to think that they are part of the majority. They couldn't be more wrong.

I'd just like to take a moment here to say something for the silent majority.

We love this game.
We're having lots of fun.
Yeah, there are some bugs that suck, but for the most part, it's a great way to spend a few hours.

Sorry if you thought we didn't like it, but we do. Sorry if you thought ANet is losing customers left and right, but they aren't. They have us. So whine. Complain and threaten and troll and do whatever you wish. Just know that you are a minority, a hedge case, and just because you don't love this game, doesn't mean we don't.

I'm not saying this game is perfect. I'm saying that I agree with the design decisions and the direction. If you don't, please play something else, because you're going to ruin it for us.

**edit for clarity**

#1951925 With a subscription, GW2 would be "pulling a TOR"

Posted Sheepski on 20 September 2012 - 02:34 PM

It's actually amazing how many different ways these people can state the same "I want a gear grind because I have no skill and need to rely on stats".

All of these types of posts focus on "this game is awful, it needs changing, it's going to die in a fire" etc, but they never actually state what they want to see implemented.

If the whole game philosophy doesn't suit you, don't 1) buy it 2) complain about it 3) come to a fan forum to voice your inner attention seeking desires. Just go and play something else, no one's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play Gw2.

If there are small design choices that irk you then specify in the suggestions forum about what you'd like to see changed, and maybe others will agree with you.

You, specifically, mention about about the cash shop, if you were aware that gw1 has thrived for 7 years or so with no subscription fee, and no cash shop for the most part, so the business model obviously works. Have you ever thought that they actually don't care about what the WoW fans think? There's a section of the MMO community who flit from game to game completing the content in a day and then moaning about it. They'll go onto the next game leaving the other (gw2 in this case) to thrive with the exact people they want to have in their community. And guess what, they've had all the money they ever wanted off all those people who just moaned about it afterwards. Which leaves them with more profit to develop content for the people that matter.

There are some minor issues with systems being bugged and stuff, and that'll be worked out, what's the rush. However most of the complaints here are either the same rubbish because people didn't bother to realise what type of game this was (like expecting a ferrari to have boot space then moaning they cant fit their 9 children and the dog in it) or it's just threads like this one, moaning about other people's complaints... making the forums appear to be a lot worse than what they are.

#1938132 GW1 'Vet', yet to play GW2

Posted Belz on 16 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

View PostDulu, on 16 September 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Don't bother.

It's pretty terrible.

Your avatar says it all. Cant wait for wow babies to go whine about MoP.

#1935951 kind of getting bored already.

Posted Metameta on 16 September 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostMonopolyman, on 16 September 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

I really really really hate people that say "dont like it, don't play", "go back to WoW", or "you got your moneys worth out of it herp derp".

Completely retarded arguments. Almost everyone that has played has enjoyed the trip from 1-80. It's the destination that is troublesome. People have these complaints because they want to improve the game. The argument that you got your moneys worth out of it is the most retarded considering this is an MMORPG. Not a single player rpg. We buy mmos to keep playing them, keep progressing, and have fun. As it stands now, at level 80, everything is a grind.

The problem is the solution that some people offer are things that have been done in other games. Things that people that came to love this game escaped and would hate to see in this game. So the alternative is for us to tell them to go play that other game instead of trying to make this game more like that other game.


I keep hearing, get map completion. Get exotic dungeon gear. Get tier gear. Get all your crafting to 400. Etc etc.
Those are all massive grinds. Hearts are all the same shit, running a dungeon in explorable mode (which gets pretty old considering there are no new mechanics..all the same) over 60 times for tokens is a massive grind. Tier3 gear is super expensive. 100g? Most people are lucky if they have 10 gold. Get all your crafting disciplins to 80? Shittiest grind of all.

Lol and here I was thinking that a certain portion of the player base WANTED these large grinds. Seriously, all I've heard from the more 'Traditional' MMO base is that there needs to be grinds, things to work for...well there they are.


Oh wait, but what about pvp? I did WvW like twice and I hated all the running around maps. Also, everything is a zerg. Theres no awesome battles, it's one zerg after another. Spvp I can't comment, I haven't done any. Seems fun though, even though pvp isn't my thing.

Nah you've been in it twice, it is more than just zergs. If everyone zergs one spot on a server than that server is likely going to just hold that one spot :P


There needs to be more challenge when it comes to DEs as well, it's all zergs. Even the "difficult" ones. Orr is extremely annoying, risen sprint at you like 28 days later, and once you kill a group another instantly respawns. And of course, DEs are zergs there too. No challenge.

DE's can be improved. I think most people agree with this, that they just need to be harder.


My last complaint is the social aspect of the game. Because of the way the game is designed, you don't make friends. You're forced to group up with others, and do little communication other than mention where the DEs are going on. So the part of the game where you talk, have fun with people, group up with like 2-3 other players to do things, make FRIENDS.. is gone. It plays like a single player rpg. Not to compare WoW, but man you make so many friends there and have some memorable times with them with all the crap you did. I have 0 friends in this game. Guildies doesn't count since the game is new and there is no long term bond between guild mates other than those that switched games.

This is a personal thing though. The game isn't going to make friends for you.


WoW sucked big time when it first came out, it started getting good like around..patch 1.8. So I'm REALLY hoping Anet fixes and or addresses a lot of the complaints people are making to make this just a behemoth of a game. It has the potential to dominate the mmo market. It's fine and dandy that the minority of you guys love the game as is, and get pissy if people make very valid complaints, but if Anet wants to be taken seriously and wants to have put out the best mmo out there like they said...then they have to take a nice long, hard look at how things are currently. And I pray they do.

Again, when the complaints are... "I want vertical gear! I want to feel better in my gear!" then how else are we supposed to respond? When people say "I want the holy trinity back!" what are we to say?

Right now most of the complaints I hear are against the things that Anet are simply against. So to those people I am responding "You need to go play that other game. That game has ALL the things you are asking for." I have complaints on this game and has expressed them.

-DEs way too easy
-Some tuning for dungeons

Those are mainly my main things. But if you come here expecting the fundamental design of the game to change then you should just cut your losses now and go back to your favorite MMO.

#1921996 Gw2 great, but what stops it from being amazing...

Posted Waar Kijk Je Naar on 12 September 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostReciprocate, on 12 September 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

My main issues with the game that hold it back from being 'AMAZING' are as follows; boosting to level 80 for S-PvP and T-PvP combined with the given gear set, the idea of "cosmetics > gear progression via stats
Here I was, thinking those were 2 of the best things the game has to offer.

No need to wait till lvl 80 before you can PvP and no gear threadmill.. what more could you possibly want? :)

#1913283 Guild Wars 2, Two sides of the Same Coin

Posted Latharn on 10 September 2012 - 07:37 PM

View PostEnaiSiaion, on 10 September 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

So you're saying the sequel to the most PvP/build oriented MMO with the lowest amount of story can only be appreciated if you're into story and don't care about gameplay.

Then the name itself is misleading advertising.
Yeah, it's sickening how many misleading video game titles are out there. If I buy a game, the title better relate to it in the driest, most straightforward way possible! I bought this game, Sleeping Dogs? Not a snoozing puppy in sight. Street Fighter IV? I don't recall ever punching a single road.

#1898079 The Heart System: What did you expect?

Posted Teste on 07 September 2012 - 03:44 PM

I would expect more people to understand what the Hearts truly are.

They are a way to make people stay in a given place long enough for a Dynamic Event to appear, so players who don't understand what DEs are actually get to play in them. In this, they're basically a big "come here, there's a cool event nearby!" sign. Developers have said as much.

What amazes me is how people have not understood that, as such, the best way to fill a heart is by doing events in the area. Do you think the heart to feed cows and kill bandits and interact with plants is too much of a shore, since it fills so slowly? When the Dynamic Event in the area triggers and you have to defend the farm from bandits, doing it will fill the heart for you. The same applies to all other hearts I have seen so far - even if the minor shores of the heart are annoying, it doesn't really matter, since the Dynamic Event which will soon appear near the heart will make you fill it anyway.

#1896409 What do GW1 players think of GW2?

Posted Senatic on 07 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

As a gw1 player since the beta for that game and since all throughout it's life span, I love GW2. It is better in a lot of ways and still feels very much like Guild Wars. I'm actually having too much fun playing to frequent these boards as I used to.

#1894656 Do you reckon Arenanet has damaged their reputation?

Posted Darkobra on 07 September 2012 - 12:20 AM

Nope. In two years, people will forget this even existed. There will always be something new to talk about. When the next expansion comes out, people will be saying that GW2 is a godsend and the expansion ruined it. Same with the following expansion. "GW2 and its first expansion were godsends! They should have left it there!"

People complain about nothing. And honestly, if this is the biggest complaint you have in your life, I'll trade lives with you right now. If your biggest complaint is "My fully functional game isn't what I thought it was", then please swap me.