Stellarthief

raspberry jam, on 29 November 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Then don't read it, you make it out as if I care.  You also assume I am a native english speaker.  Attacking grammar is a big move by a big guy like you.

And SW:ToR was most certainly supposed to be the next big thing with the largest budget ever for an MMO.  What else is there to believe other than company hype, media hype?  Everyone was hyping the game.

Bioware titles are always a big budget, big ticket item these days. They have big budget for the game itself, big advertising budget and generate big hype.  Doesn't matter what platform or genre.

Of course people cancel and resub to WoW, did I say otherwise? No, I said that a new big ticket game that isn't even out or established is unlikely to make a WoW player cancel their sub in favour of something new and untried.  It's unlikely to make anyone cancel their sub to move to something new before they figure out if it's for them or not.  The WoW players I know in GW2 are still subbed to WoW, many already having gone back.

raspberry jam, on 29 November 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I don't really care what you give a shit about now do I? You are just some dick being all mighty on the interwebz.

And, I am not sure if you learned logic. But you still don't know how they could make the best game. You know how they would make the game that would most appeal to you. What is enjoyable for you doesnt necessarily have anything to do with best/worst now does it?

And although subjective, best/worst can be rated in many objective ways and I am fairly sure this is what anet internally does or they wouldnt bother making tweaks to the game now would they? As subjective as you find it, anet maintains they strive to make the best game they can, most fun game they can (also another subjective indicator).  They must have some way of measuring this?

So while you dont give a shit about anets bottom line or the profits they make, its has a direct impact on the way the game turns out.  They wont continue with a model in game that loses them money now will it?  They wont have the resources to keep a live team or have as many people working on the game if they have no profits to make the payroll. But then again you dont even play the game anymore do you? So what are you even posting about?

Protoss, on 29 November 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

It "seems" to be hurting GW2, but I also don't think so.  I and the people still playing (most of the people I know left well before any of this ascended, progression info was released because the basic game didnt appeal to them) are happy with the game.  We don't find it hurting any more today than it did last month.

What's the point in pointing fingers in the first place?  You have your idea of who's to blame for the unhappiness, I have mine. I am happy with the game, you are not.  Not really much point in discussing that part further eh?

Killyox, on 29 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

I mostly avoid the GW2 forums.  I checked that big ascended gear thread as it was entertaining to see people react as if arena net was getting ready to bomb their house irl or was literally stabbing them, physically, in the back with a dagger.

But back in vanilla wow, better moderation on forums wouldnt have been a bad thing

Ninja edit:

But on the other end of the spectrum you had Asheron's Call 2. Where the devs literally worked very hard and intensively with the player base, most of whom were on the forums as it was a dying game with not many players.  There were some intensive and very good discussions and people didn't bitch with no reason.  What does it accomplish when the game is dying to just bitch? People gave so many constructive comments and everyone worked to try to save the game. Sadly, didnt work.

Capn_Crass, on 29 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

FFXI was a completely different beast as for most of the games lifespan you couldnt solo a fly. (little exaggeration, but you get the point).

Was also aimed originally at a different market and population was also in that different market.

Killyox, on 29 November 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Back in the day, MMOs didnt even have official forums. DAoC for example didnt and the developers either posted things in news on the website as game updates or came to the popular fan boards and participated in discussions when they had something to say.

When WoW opened their doors with a big forum, my friends and I were so happy... for awhile...Barrens Chat & Wow message boards make baby jesus cry.