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#2126747 Is this game for me?

Posted Arquenya on 23 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

View Postcheek, on 22 December 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

leveling: I don't like leveling because i feel i can see past all the story which just appears to be hiding a simple game of going somewhere and killing/picking something up.  i just do it because i know the game will get better later (at least with gw2 i hope it will) i just see leveling as a training up period for you as the player so when you reach the later level your ready for anything. but i do recognize that leveling is needed to gain experience and to create story. I am from the generation which thinks the endgame is where the game starts and i like being rewarded for my efforts and feel cheated if i get something too quickly or easily (weird i know).
Well although the levelling was basically ok I felt it was like 20-40 levels too much. I agree with DuskWolf that it's really annoying that completing the 1-15 area and doing every DE you encounter only gets you level 12-13.

As you get most of your basic skills early on and you're fully unlocked at lvl30 (slots not all the skills), I feel that 50 extra levels is a bit redundant to get to max level.
Personally I didn't see the need to have 50 more levels as there isn't too much more to learn between lvl30 and 80 what world events and heart quests are concerned. To me it got pretty stale as there's nothing new compared to lvl 1-30. The occasional extra support skill you unlock doesn't keep me excited for an extra X levels.

The thing is that once you have one lvl80 levelling another character feels really grindy.

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dungeons/raids: i really enjoy dungeons/ raids in mmorpgs and it is essentially what i play the game for. everyone i believe plays the game for something in particular which is why these rpgs are so popular, they are many games in one. i found the dungeons so far in gw2 a bit messy and i spend most my time being ressed but that could just be because i suck. i do still enjoy them though.
Personally I think dungeons are okish.

The thing is that play style in dungeons (I think I have done 80% of the possible dungeon "paths" at least once and it's my main in-game activity, both with guildies as pugs) is totally different from what you're used to in the levelling areas, it almost feels like a different game. Suddenly there's lethal red circles carpets and 1-shot bosses that can jump you and being downed is something that's just going to happen because of that. You basically have to learn to play your class all over again, the skillset that was perfect for levelling appears to be absolutely unfit for dungeon play.

Which is another reason I think 80 levels is quite overdone. But once you're used to it, it's usually not very hard or challenging, you just follow the experienced players and you're done before you know it. There's also a few harder ones but as you may expect, there's a few easy ones that people do a lot as they're both easy and profitable.

I guess you'd like GW2 well enough, it's not a bad game.


#2126495 Is this game for me?

Posted Gilles VI on 23 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

View Postcheek, on 22 December 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

so the clue is in the title i cant decide whether i should carry on playing gw2.

Firstly the way I see mmorpgs (without trying to waffle on too much):

Bearing in mind this is from a player who likes pve and dislikes pvp
  • leveling: I don't like leveling because i feel i can see past all the story which just appears to be hiding a simple game of going somewhere and killing/picking something up.  i just do it because i know the game will get better later (at least with gw2 i hope it will) i just see leveling as a training up period for you as the player so when you reach the later level your ready for anything. but i do recognize that leveling is needed to gain experience and to create story. I am from the generation which thinks the endgame is where the game starts and i like being rewarded for my efforts and feel cheated if i get something too quickly or easily (weird i know).
  • dungeons/raids: i really enjoy dungeons/ raids in mmorpgs and it is essentially what i play the game for. everyone i believe plays the game for something in particular which is why these rpgs are so popular, they are many games in one. i found the dungeons so far in gw2 a bit messy and i spend most my time being ressed but that could just be because i suck. i do still enjoy them though.
This being said i will still level my engineer to 80 as you never know what the future holds for gw2. i am only level 49 and would like to ask weather there is likeable game content for me in late game more specifically the dungeons.

i am open to any constructive criticism.

cheers

  • If you want raids you're better with WoW or Rift.
  • The game doesn't magically change at max level, there are only 3 or 4 dungeons I think that open up at lvl80 that you can't do before max level.
  • Dungeons are skill based really. There are full teams that fail at certain bosses (Kholer in AC, Alpha in CoE, Lupicus in Arah,...) and then there are people that can solo these bosses.
    In my opinion that shows there is a high skill ceiling. :)



#2126490 Is this game for me?

Posted SevereEpicz on 23 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

If you decide to keep playing, make sure you dont rush through the leveling process because thats the meat of the game other than dungeons and fractals. Explore and do whatever just dont rush, everyone who rushed just said that they got super bored, super quick. I took my time and I'm still enjoying myself. Havent done all the dungeons, havent done any of the jumping puzzles or gotten world completion and I decided to start making a legendary. There really is a lot to do. From what I've done with the dungeons and fractals, i really like them.


#2126392 Is this game for me?

Posted Samarin on 23 December 2012 - 07:39 AM

Hi,

well, for leveling and whether it is too troublesome, you are the best judge to say it. Leveling from 49 to 80 could take a similar amount or a bit more time than going from 1 to 49 (don´t have any numerical data for this, just my impression). I´ve been trying to see levelling more as a journey than something I must do doing whatever feels good at the moment, going with flow. Crafting your own gear as you level, doing a bit personal story and such even feels like "training for something greater". Whether it´s relevant for you, is your decision. Worked for me, at least.

As for endgame, we don´t have a crystal ball but Anet introduced ascended gear and they say they stated, there could be more similar updates to game. Or at least they didn´t deny the possibility of it. At least cosmetics will be introduced, for that I´m sure. That kept me playing GW1 for long time (alongside with my guild and HoM rewards). I´d be content with new skins and such things so I ´m pretty sure there is something for me in future. You didn´t state whether you want gear-advancement or something else to have as a goal. If you crave for more and more powerful gear, we really can´t know how your needs are satisfied. Seeing the amount of posting regarding ascended gear, I feel that it´d be better for the game overall if they were rather conservative introducing more powerful gear with absurd price tag of 250 ectos + other mats.

Dungeons can be messy and you need an organised party to do them without feeling messy. I haven´t done them too much but those I did with my guild, went really smootly for me too even though I´m rather casual player with non-optimal gear and I hadn´t done those paths never before. This was thanks to my guildie, who´d give me step-by-step instructions on TS. Can´t say yet, whether doing them over and over gets boring (at some point, it sure does).

Fractals are interesting concept and I hope ANet introduces more and more fractals in game so that there wont be much repetition. Also, recent announcement for updates regarding fractals shows, that they have love for them too so I´m very hopeful to have new levels for it. Also, at the moment at least there seems to be some nice rewards for playing them too. If you have time for grind and want it, you can always go for those stacks of ectos to get shining backpieces. The quiver one looks good too, imho (well, unfortunately not with engineer, which I play too).


#2126420 Is this game for me?

Posted Flaming_Foxx on 23 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

I'm going to say no..
This bit struck me out most of all "I am from the generation which thinks the endgame is where the game starts"
That just isn't how Guild Wars 2 works at all.. Of which I am glad. Once you hit "endgame" there is a decent amount to do with the dungeons and map completion, but it really isn't designed as "endgame" - the game is designed to be played as a whole, if you think there is some silly end point you have to reach before you get into the "real" content then you're going to miss out on the beauty of the game itself.

It isn't about reaching max level and doing high level content at all, although you will hit lvl 80 pretty quickly anyway. You are meant to go through the zones and experience them, take part in a ton of events, go through the personal story (which is there as storyline - not as filler content to help you level...).

The game exists as a whole. If you want a game where all you do is play the endgame then I suggest you go somewhere else, you probably aren't going to get GW2..


#2126428 Is this game for me?

Posted Placebo on 23 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

Maybe.

Depends on your patience, but I do think this is a real issue.

I've been 80 ranger since Day 13 and Im still enjoying it. And even at this level, with my 1st set (exo berserker lvl78), I got insta pwn'ed in the 1st dungeon paths I tried. But you still need to learn how to play your class, how to create an efficient build, what gear is better in what situation ... and the dungeon path. If you don't know the lattest, and you're pretty new to vanquishing different dungeons then you will prolly fail, i.e. "i found the dungeons so far in gw2 a bit messy and i spend most my time being ressed but that could just be because i suck."

NO they're not messy and yes they are very enjoyable. I guess they become boring when you can rush one and don't even die.