Not for nothing, but Consortium items for sale in the Black Lion Trading Company? Let's try an interesting 'what if?'. What if NCSoft and Arenanet are testing different ideas about what should be in the BLTP. Anything by Anet is BLTP, anything suggested by NCSoft is Consortium.
Don't be ridiculous. If you open a box and get a booby prize you have lost your stakes. There are a few relevant items that you want to open and the rest is either junk or worth next to nothing when compared to the cost of opening a box.
A key is 125 gems a single boost is 150..that's not a loss of money, that's a gain. If you don't like the cereal stop buying it, the toys make it taste bad any way. Seriously, buying a key with the hope/expectation of getting a particular drop out of it is not rational thought. It's magical thinking. If you're buying these keys you SHOULD be buying them with the expectation of the boosts, etc. If people are not, they will learn the lesson of rational thinking the hard way, in a very costly, and childishly heartbreaking way. Then they will never be fooled again...until the next time.
El Duderino, on 17 May 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:
Just because you don't believe it's gambling has nothing to do with the fact that it is indeed gambling. The rest of the thread should sew up the rest of the argument pretty nicely in that regard if you care to read it.
I have read it, and do not agree with it, thus my hope that people will understand the difference between gambling, a legally controlled activity, and an old, dog eared marketing/merchandising ploy dressed up in a nice game. If you guys cannot see THAT, then I will crawl back into my corner and continue to watch the false discussion being made by all involved. Sorry to have disturbed the ethers.
Gambling is simply playing a game of chance. As it stands, when you purchase these items, you are playing for a chance to get a specific item. Therefore, it is gambling.
There is literally no good argument against this NOT being gambling. Give me any decent reference with a definition of gambling and this will fit the definition. Your made-up definition is not a good reference unless your name is Merriam Webster.
Let's not make this another thread about semantics.
I see a chest not as a gamble. You are guaranteed to recieve a prize in it. It might not be the one you are hoping for, but you receive product for your money. If I place a bet on something, I have two outcomes...I receive a reward if I win the bet, I get NOTHING if I lose. gambling is a +1 or -1 issue.
This is similar to wanting a particular toy out of a box of Cracker Jacks...you know the toy is available, your buddy has it...are you going to bitch when you open 100 boxes and do not recieve the same toy. You haven't the right, you still have 100 boxes of Cracker Jacks. Same issue here. If these were empty boxes, then I would agree. However, they aren't. Do you recieve product worth less than the cost of the key, or the box...you don't a key is worth 125 gems, a boost is worth 150...win to me, and that's not the only thing you generally get from the chest:
So I disagree on your use of the term gambling...and I do not stand up for the practice that I've described. However, people have to learn for themselves how crappy this games ruleset is. When a carnie tells you "A winner every time!" you should know to run away AND check your wallet when you stop running.
I just wish everyone would stop calling the RNG portion of the game ‘gambling’. It’s not! You buy boxes that are guaranteed to give you in-game items EVERY time you open them. Just like toys in a cereal box. You do not get what you want? Well sit down and eat your cereal.
Gambling means you are at risk to lose your stake (money, chips, pretzel sticks), in other words you are poorer than when you started. In these cases you aren’t. You might not like the ‘toys in the box’, but you still got toys.
Do I agree with RNG…no. I do not, AND I do not support it with my money. However, I do not begrudge those that can afford to buy chests and boxes, and I do not feel a need to be overly protective towards those that want to purchase these items.