Gerroh

Do you die from fall damage or a kill box?
A nec can avoid fall damage in two ways(death shroud & spectral walk), and the killbox in one(just death shroud).

It's been months since I did that dungeon, I can't remember anything about it.

Interestingly enough, Faren and the skank beside him(What's her name again?) have a dialogue where they talk about how the upcoming dragon festival may be offensive. I took this as a parody of NCSoft(Or whoever it was) being offended by Cantha.

As for The Great Collapse, I've no idea. It does seem a bit weird and stuff, but all I've heard is inconsistent rumours.

Mahaedros, on 17 May 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

Now that you mention it, I do remember a settler saying they signed a contract to come and fight, and the fighting was over, and they wanted out of the contract, and Kiel explaining that he signed the contract and was stuck there.

coglin, on 16 May 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Most of PvE is a team effort, and the fact that the nec captalizes on that(engineer does, too, but in different ways) is a perfectly valid argument. And if we're not factoring in team effort, then the vuln stacks the engineer provides are worth a lot less than we were previously accounting for.
And let's be honest here, a grenade engineer is not going to cause a significant amount of burning or confusion for "access to every condition in the game except fear" to be a valid point. And if they switch kits they instantly lose out on massive amounts of bleeding which require constant grenades to maintain. And what exactly in the grenade kit causes weakness?
And yes, a nec can make a build that gets weakness, chill, poison, bleeding, and fear. All of those come with just staff. Scepter+dagger adds in more bleeding and weakness, as well as cripple and blind. And I haven't even touched the utilities, yet.

PS: Forgot to mention that necs can do every condition in the game without help, it's just that burning and confusion are very difficult because they require boons to flip.

Coren, on 16 May 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

When I use epidemic, enemies are typically spread out because they just spawned as part of a wave, or it's the start of a fight. Regardless, epidemic still doubles conditions. Anything caught in the "kill zone" so to speak is going to have pretty much any conditions on it doubled, and that "kill zone" is a lot bigger for the nec weapon skills than it is for grenades.
Remember, we're not talking strictly dungeons, here. We're also including events and anything else in PvE.

Okay, as promised, here's Sailor Saturn. You can google "Sailor Saturn" for a comparison.

DarkGanni, on 14 May 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

(I've numbered the above bits so I can respond to them directly and clearly)
1)This is an MMORPG. Anywhere that isn't an instance is pretty much "public space", and it's everyone's business for that reason.

2)What the hell is an exploit to you if this isn't? It doesn't have to be a glitch to be an exploit.

3)Tell this to yourself, with your "people just don't mind their own business" bit. And I, personally, don't need the karma items everyday, but I always see people using that merchant every time I do it.

4) It's not a huge issue, there isn't much of a "fuss" coming from anyone but the farmers who rage at people for completing the event

5) Utter nonsense

6) Farming CoF isn't exploiting, it's just a dungeon being way easier than all the others. This would be akin to the old do-all-three-paths-of-CoE-exploit that was done before. I never did that one, so I don't know whether it involved a glitch or was just an exploit, but your comparison is complete failure either way.

DarkHorseKnight, on 15 May 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

(I'm using colours to clarify this time!)
Similarly, it is not for you to decide when and why I decide to do this event. So I guess that's not really all there is to it, because you missed the hypocrisy of what you said.

And no, no one cares about farmers, and this isn't having a huge impact on the economy from what I can tell. The issue is that it's an exploit, get that into your head, even if you don't agree with it, we're ending it largely because it's an exploit.

But Darkhorse, anyone who doesn't agree with me is an idiot! Similar to how anyone who disagrees with you is a series of seven hearts.

But at the same time he has inspired many to trash the event, and honestly all it takes is roughly 1/20th the number of farmers to end this. So as long as 1/20 people are on our side, my side, the right side, we win!

aIJay17, on 15 May 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

I honestly didn't know about this, and had never seen it done. I've seen people request I and others let events intentionally fail, back near launch when I was leveling my first character, and I was against it then, too.