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Toby_from_Midgard, on 15 June 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I said it was only inferior if you used purely click-to-move. It's still a valuable complementary tool

"Click to move works in GW1 because melees are auto following"
good melee players do not rely on auto-follow at all
they're constantly clicking around the enemy between attacks to bodyblock them and to get in position so they can still attack them even after they start running in a predicted direction

so, sorry, but there's zero necessity to use "bot" movement unless you're moving into casting range for a target, in which case the auto-cast is just good design in that game since every millisecond matters a lot more than other MMOs.

UVShockwave, on 15 June 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

1) You instantly begin traveling in the quickest trajectory to target location

2) Click-to-move is server-side rather than client-side. This means you would arrive at a destination faster than if you used WASD to get there, and you are no longer prone to rubber-banding, since with WASD you start moving on your screen before the server knows you are moving. This is important when bodyblocking others, since there is a buffer that causes the server to input the movement command immediately after your attack completes

3) It's the only way to move in any direction at full speed. This means you can move backwards at full speed to kite an enemy, and you can rapidly move left or right to dodge projectiles

4) Leaves your left hand more open to skill activations

this is just what immediately comes to mind
thanks for seeking knowledge!

Gilles VI, on 15 June 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

lol

Ravers, on 15 June 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

you could have right-clicked into the game instead
If you mean to say that you think you had more control in gw1 with pure WASD, sorry, you need to at least mix the two to achieve optimal control.

Illein, on 15 June 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure it's already implemented in the engine and they just disabled it after testing with it

Sinte, on 15 June 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

I guess I'll quote myself:

"You are handicapped in GW2 if you primarily use click-to-move as movement. However, it would be advantageous to have it as an option in certain circumstances, as it can eliminate small windows where you cannot use skills and change your movement at the same time."

It's not a primitive means of control. It's a conditional means of control that depends upon how skills work for how well it will work.

Charr.

No good mangy, carnivorous, warmonger, wannabe asurans. The only good charr is a dead charr. A Charrs best attribute is when they're made into a fur rug for your fireplace. ArenaNet's attempt to George RR Martin the charr (rewrite a nasty person/race into someone likeable) is wasted effort, just like Martin failed big time.

It made me sad in the pants that we couldn't commit genocide on the charr and bring the Ascaloinan ghosts back to life in gw2.

Asurans can be annoying with their bookah insults but at least you can live with them....besides a good smack upside their nappy little heads keeps them in line.

Selaris, on 16 June 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:

That...that's a recipe for a disaster of nightmarish proportions. First time they'd try to be intimate and, well, it's not a pretty picture.

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Thank you for proving my point about your inability to view someone with a differing opinion as anything but a whining irrational fool. Also:

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[Total of completely OPTIONAL content I purchased in GW1: $330]

Better try again. My history of purchasing optional features speaks for itself, and I don't begrudge a single one of those purchases, because without exception, they were investments in my account as a whole. Every one of my ten characters has benefited from the additions I paid for, whether they were created before or after the fact.

If they allow me to do that in GW2 in the same way, they can sit back and watch my money flow in. However, if they fail to do that by continuing with the focus on transient, single-instance, disposable per-character merchandise, that system of investment will be lost - and with it, my willingness to spend.

In short, *I* am the customer ArenaNet needs to cater to most.

Timid, on 10 May 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

Well the main issue I have with XP is that they said they wouldn't have gameplay affecting items. That's the least of the issues I have.

The Karma booster is aiding in the selling of prestige. In a game where the 'end-game' content is prestige, doing this is like a slap in the face of the people that worked hard the none-cheating way to acquire the stuff.



My biggest gripes are with the selling gold for cash/selling loot and craft boosters and the sacrificing of game designs purely to facilitate higher revenue.

Selling gold is bad for the same reason that RMT'er are bad (mostly). It allows players to use an outside currency to buy in-game wealth in a game which inflates the economy and cheapens the experience for everyone else. Allowing players to buy gold directly from the company doesn't only allow the practice, but it encourages it with no worry of any repercussion. With a system that makes it more accessible will only make the unfair wealth redistribution even more noticeable than ever. This is also selling prestige, since rare items and wealth in a MMO are often times signs of power/skill/devotion (whether the first two are true or not, that's still the inherent connotation). With the addition of loot and craft boosters you are allowing players to excel at obtaining valuable items easier and more efficiently than others. Making it MUCH harder for those other players to obtain the same items because of the way economies work, even when devoting the same amount of time and/or energy. This is not fair and not fun for anyone but the people that have the advantage.

With sacrificing game designs to increase profit we have things like the repair system, dye system, trait system, cramped storage, and who knows what else. Road blocks that aren't fun are put up only to provide a way for a player to buy them down. There is nothing fun about waiting for 24 hours for a color to grow, especially when there are over 400 to eventually get (per character, not account-wide like we were told). There's nothing fun about running out of storage space before level 10, even when selling almost everything you get. They said themselves that dying in itself isn't fun and that they, as a company, should not make the process worse. Yet they did, unless you want to give some extra cash to get the old "fun" way back. And with the purchase of the golem butler you can even respec your traits anywhere. You can pay cash for a service that you previously got for free.

Trei, on 10 May 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

I support the other design principles that GW2 is proposing. Greatly. It's a huge step forward for the MMO genre and there is no other game that I feel even close to that way about. If I didn't care about the game, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't care enough to have spent the last few years of my life absorbing any and all GW2 knowledge that I could. That's what I am supporting with my $60. I will also support cash shop items that I think are legitimately fair ways to generate revenue, based on my principles and what I was told about the game for years.

No click to move = no Chiizu dance = sadPanda